China Literally $#!+$ On the Rest of the World

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
excuse me squarepants, sweden get actually more to eat than americans, and yet they pollute way less on that list

LOOOOOOOOOOO

Since there is such a strong relationship between income and per capita CO2 emissions, we’d expect this to be the case: that countries with high standards of living would have a high carbon footprint. But what becomes clear is that there can be large differences in per capita emissions, even between countries with similar standards of living. Many countries across Europe, for example, have much lower emissions than the US, Canada or Australia.

In fact, some European countries have emissions not far from the global average: In 2017 emissions in Portugal are 5.3 tonnes; 5.5t in France; and 5.8t per person in the UK. This is also much lower than some of their neighbours with similar standards of living, such as Germany, the Netherlands, or Belgium. The choice of energy sources plays a key role here: in the UK, Portugal and France, a much higher share of electricity is produced from nuclear and renewable sources – you can explore this electricity mix by country here. This means a much lower share of electricity is produced from fossil fuels: in 2015, only 6% of France’s electricity came from fossil fuels, compared to 55% in Germany.

Prosperity is a primary driver of CO2 emissions, but clearly policy and technological choices make a difference.

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rickyb

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Don't use France as an example of things being done better than the U.S. if you disagree with how France is keeping their carbon emissions lower.
long list of problems with nuclear including it goes against market principles, makes you vulnerable for attack by war, etc
 

vantexan

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OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE GOING TO POLLUTE MORE IF YOU DONT FACTOR POPULATION SHERLOCK
You're making like each American citizen pollutes more than each Chinese citizen, or whoever. When they say per capita they are taking the total carbon emissions put out by industry, cars, etc and dividing it by the population. However China puts out a lot more emissions but when divided by the number of their population it looks like per individual the U.S. is worse. This is playing with stats. Both China and India are bigger polluters.
 

vantexan

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long list of problems with nuclear including it goes against market principles, makes you vulnerable for attack by war, etc
How does it go against market principles? And you were the one that mentioned France as doing things better than the U.S. You just want to slam the U.S. and didn't realize others would know how other countries were producing less emissions.
 

rickyb

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How does it go against market principles? And you were the one that mentioned France as doing things better than the U.S. You just want to slam the U.S. and didn't realize others would know how other countries were producing less emissions.
at least they have high speed transit.

nuclear is based on govt guarantees. if i recall they wont insure it otherwise
 
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