Christmas Eve 2017

[1989]

I'd work that for sure!

You get overtime for all hours worked + 8 hours.

 

[Article 3]

Attendance infraction is good enough for me.
Barring any weather problems I believe we'll clean it up on Saturday, Dec. 23rd.
If not, oh well.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I think it’s a supplemental thing, it’s double-time where I’m at. I doubt there’s any actual triple-time out there; I’m pretty sure Upstate just means he’d do it for $100/hr

I misspoke----the triple time reference was if we were put to work on Christmas Day, which was a distinct possibility a few years ago which thankfully never came to fruition.

It would be double time if we worked Christmas Eve.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

You get overtime for all hours worked + 8 hours.

Christmas Eve is not a holiday so why the additional 8 hours?

 

[bottomups]

Not happening with this service provider. I haven't worked a Saturday or a Sunday in my 35+ years. Not going to start now.

 

[upschuck]

Black Friday in the 177 is triple pay if you work. 8 hours holiday pay+double time for all hours worked. If you don’t work it’s just holiday pay.

What if you only work 4 hours, quadruple time, work 2 hrs and it's octuple time?

 

[Slow walker]

Christmas Eve is not a holiday so why the additional 8 hours?

It's been a paid holiday for my last 28 Christmas Eve's

 

[Article 3]

I don’y have any plans for that day—I would work for $100/hr.

Oops.

 

[PT Stewie]

As an Article 40 person I have had to work most Christmas Eves until 9PM over the past 20 years. I will be home all day this year enjoying it with my family. We finally received our premium pay last black Friday because the entire hub worked and a grievance that was filed.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

As an Article 40 person I have had to work most Christmas Eves until 9PM over the past 20 years. I will be home all day this year enjoying it with my family. We finally received our premium pay last black Friday because the entire hub worked and a grievance that was filed.

Black Friday was a normal Holiday, and you were forced to work ?

 

[Indecisi0n]

Not happening with this service provider. I haven't worked a Saturday or a Sunday in my 35+ years. Not going to start now.

It's not an option. See you Sunday.

 

[PT Stewie]

Black Friday was a normal Holiday, and you were forced to work ?

Look at Article 40 air operations include Black Friday and New Year Eve
(j) Holiday Work
When it is necessary to provide air service on holidays, the following procedure shall be used:
(1) The Employer shall offer this work in seniority order to fulltime air drivers who have worked at least one (1) day that week before offering it to part-time air drivers.
(2) When the scheduling needs cannot be met using the above pro
vision, the Employer shall have the right to force part-time air drivers and then full-time air drivers to work starting in reverse order of seniority. If after exhausting the above steps scheduling needs are still not met, the Employer shall offer the work in seniority order within the package driver classification. If more drivers are still needed the reverse seniority order concept will be used for package drivers. Package car drivers who work on a holiday may make a written request for an eight (8) hour guarantee. Such written request shall be made the last work day prior to the holiday.All time worked by these drivers on a holiday will be paid at the Supplemental holiday rate.
(3) The scheduling of the support work will be reviewed with the Local Union prior to the holiday. If the Local Union believes that the Employer has scheduled an excessive number of support employees, it shall have the right to appeal directly to the National Air Committee. The National Air Committee will review the schedule and determine whether the Employer has scheduled an excessive number of support employees. If it is determined by the National Air Committee that the Employer worked excessive support employees, the excessive employees worked shall be paid double-time for hours worked in addition to their holiday pay.
(4) Air drivers and support employees scheduled on a holiday to ensure air service to the customer, including time performing incidental work, shall receive straight-time for all hours worked up to eight (8) hours in addition to the holiday pay. Overtime provisions shall apply if the employee works over eight (8) hours.

Sucks doesn't it ?

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

Look at Article 40 air operations include Black Friday and New Year Eve
(j) Holiday Work
When it is necessary to provide air service on holidays, the following procedure shall be used:
(1) The Employer shall offer this work in seniority order to fulltime air drivers who have worked at least one (1) day that week before offering it to part-time air drivers.
(2) When the scheduling needs cannot be met using the above pro
vision, the Employer shall have the right to force part-time air drivers and then full-time air drivers to work starting in reverse order of seniority. If after exhausting the above steps scheduling needs are still not met, the Employer shall offer the work in seniority order within the package driver classification. If more drivers are still needed the reverse seniority order concept will be used for package drivers. Package car drivers who work on a holiday may make a written request for an eight (8) hour guarantee. Such written request shall be made the last work day prior to the holiday.All time worked by these drivers on a holiday will be paid at the Supplemental holiday rate.
(3) The scheduling of the support work will be reviewed with the Local Union prior to the holiday. If the Local Union believes that the Employer has scheduled an excessive number of support employees, it shall have the right to appeal directly to the National Air Committee. The National Air Committee will review the schedule and determine whether the Employer has scheduled an excessive number of support employees. If it is determined by the National Air Committee that the Employer worked excessive support employees, the excessive employees worked shall be paid double-time for hours worked in addition to their holiday pay.
(4) Air drivers and support employees scheduled on a holiday to ensure air service to the customer, including time performing incidental work, shall receive straight-time for all hours worked up to eight (8) hours in addition to the holiday pay. Overtime provisions shall apply if the employee works over eight (8) hours.

Sucks doesn't it ?

Use caution- you are sparring with a.... Big Union Guy. Lol.

 

[Gimme Danger]

UPS peak schedule has Christmas Eve and Christmas day as no deliveries or pickups.

 

[PT Stewie]

Use caution- you are sparring with a.... Big Union Guy. Lol.

Not sparring just stating fact.I been living with this and fighting it for 20 years. The article 40 language should have been change long ago. Since it only effects a small percentage of the rank and file it has never been corrected.

 

[542thruNthru]

I believe in my local, Christmas Eve would be straight time for us. Should be a ton of call ins if they try to make people come in.

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

Not sparring just stating fact.I been living with this and fighting it for 20 years. The article 40 language should have been change long ago. Since it only effects a small percentage of the rank and file it has never been corrected.

I was actually being sarcastic. Certain people on here seem to think they are always right- in this case about the contract. Of course- you had the language to show how it works in the real world.

 

[Jkloc420]

I was actually being sarcastic. Certain people on here seem to think they are always right- in this case about the contract. Of course- you had the language to show how it works in the real world.

you will work it because the 24th is on a sunday this year

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

you will work it because the 24th is on a sunday this year

Was actually responding to a post regarding Black Friday- sorry to get off topic. Lol. Holiday language doesn't pertain to Christmas Eve where I am- but I most definitely won't be working that "day".

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Black Friday was a normal Holiday, and you were forced to work ?

Most of us had to work Black Friday.