Contract talks !!!!!! STRIKE !!!!!!

[menotyou]

How about $30.70 an hour to empty waste paper baskets? We have 5 FT and 2 article 22.3 for that job. The union will not let the jobs go away.

I hope you are kidding ... that is totally ridiculous if true.

Article 22 full time porters. also known as janitors. They do a lot of other things such as mopping the floors and cleaning bathrooms. Work mostly 6:00 AM to 14:30 with half hour lunch. Very high seniority.

Geez, if I had known this, I might have stayed a driver.
Is 40 years enough seniority?

Oh gosh Hoax, that's absolutely true. There's more than one local in the northeast who has drivers bid janitor jobs
and make top rate.

Oh, great. We have another guy who might have retired and figured out there are cake jobs here. Damn. At this rate, I'll never get one.

 

[kingOFchester]

Oh, great. We have another guy who might have retired and figured out there are cake jobs here. Damn. At this rate, I'll never get one.

You just crack me up!!

 

[East coast navy]

Saving $200 a week with vacation time, That will give me 2 months. I'm dug in. Good luck brothers.

 

[menotyou]

Saving $200 a week with vacation time, That will give me 2 months. I'm dug in. Good luck brothers.

Where did you get that avatar? I love it.

 

[Chumpy]

Yeah...you guys lose a lot of dough when a strike happens. I won't cross lines either...Good luck!

 

[East coast navy]

I got it on this site, They have cool pics.

 

[BROWNHOG]

Grievances being filed. Please ! Gm cut 55000 unionized high paying production killing assembly jobs and replaced them with jobs starting at 6 dollars an hour less, with maximum level pay scales before they executed their shame obama lead controlled bankruptcy. All that before the investors, pension funds and retirement investments got screwed and lost their whole investment. And the teamsters retirement investment in gm ? How much do you think they lost. Oh . Gm cut 24000 low.middle and operational management employees as well and gm had the full backing of the taxpayer and us government's treasury to make the deal. You want shared sacrifice between work groups and investors ? Look at ford

 

[PT Car Washer]

Geez, if I had known this, I might have stayed a driver.
Is 40 years enough seniority?

Just about right but you have to wait for 1 to die first.

 

[BROWNHOG]

Anybody remember when the non unionized fedex was a strong challenging rival to ups, offering solid middle class full time driver and management jobs with a large part time work force. Fedex is now a shell of what it was. Massive management and hourly layoffs or outright elimination of operations and services. Buyouts and consolidation of 4 business units into one strong and viable service offering to go directly to the core of the ups america revenue stream. Fedex is paying less for their workers and doing it all with an non unionized work force. You want to complain about big bad ups ? Just think r.e.a. Business as usual is a thing of the past. Whether you believe it or not. This contract is a done deal already. Everything else is chest thumping over the top rhetoric.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Anybody remember when the non unionized fedex was a strong challenging rival to ups, offering solid middle class full time driver and management jobs with a large part time work force. Fedex is now a shell of what it was. Massive management and hourly layoffs or outright elimination of operations and services. Buyouts and consolidation of 4 business units into one strong and viable service offering to go directly to the core of the ups america revenue stream. Fedex is paying less for their workers and doing it all with an non unionized work force. You want to complain about big bad ups ? Just think r.e.a. Business as usual is a thing of the past. Whether you believe it or not. This contract is a done deal already. Everything else is chest thumping over the top rhetoric.

The contact maybe done...But we still have to vote for or against it

 

[big boy]

CONTRACT IS ALREADY DONE

 

[stink219]

It's not. That's a ludicrous statement.

 

[East coast navy]

Anybody remember when the non unionized fedex was a strong challenging rival to ups, offering solid middle class full time driver and management jobs with a large part time work force. Fedex is now a shell of what it was. Massive management and hourly layoffs or outright elimination of operations and services. Buyouts and consolidation of 4 business units into one strong and viable service offering to go directly to the core of the ups america revenue stream. Fedex is paying less for their workers and doing it all with an non unionized work force. You want to complain about big bad ups ? Just think r.e.a. Business as usual is a thing of the past. Whether you believe it or not. This contract is a done deal already. Everything else is chest thumping over the top rhetoric.

That's crazy, if the contract was a done deal hoffa and hall wouldn't be traveling around the country getting us worked up.

 

[satellitedriver]

No matter what is offered, vote no.
Strike!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It worked in 97'.

OOps, we did not get to vote on the contract in 97', we gave that right away to the committee.

Obama is in office and we know he will back us up, or save us from ourselves.
So, strike now and live with consequences later.

1997 taught me how the game is played.

 

[Catatonic]

That's crazy, if the contract was a done deal hoffa and hall wouldn't be traveling around the country getting us worked up.

If Obama won the election, he would not be running around the country getting voters riled up.

 

[BROWNHOG]

Your kidding right ? Getting us worked up is about all thats left to do

 

[Ms.PacMan]

CONTRACT IS ALREADY DONE

That's what I think. Already knowing the length of the contract seemed off to me. They are probably getting everyone worked up about the cost of health care so they can spin it into a victory when it still costs us nothing (as always) and the rest of the contract sucks.

This is a two way street mind you - I keep reading on financial forums that MIP will be 1.2 this year. UPS can use the health care cost as an excuse to screw mgmt.

JMHO

 

[stink219]

CONTRACT IS ALREADY DONE

That's what I think. Already knowing the length of the contract seemed off to me. They are probably getting everyone worked up about the cost of health care so they can spin it into a victory when it still costs us nothing (as always) and the rest of the contract sucks.

This is a two way street mind you - I keep reading on financial forums that MIP will be 1.2 this year. UPS can use the health care cost as an excuse to screw mgmt.

JMHO

I know 4 people on the national negotiating committee, the contract is not done. You may think it is, but I assure you it is not.

 

[Coldworld]

Stink, do they have any drivers on the national negotiating committee???

 

[Catatonic]

That's what I think. Already knowing the length of the contract seemed off to me. They are probably getting everyone worked up about the cost of health care so they can spin it into a victory when it still costs us nothing (as always) and the rest of the contract sucks.

This is a two way street mind you - I keep reading on financial forums that MIP will be 1.2 this year. UPS can use the health care cost as an excuse to screw mgmt.

JMHO

MIP is 70% or 1.4 for the 2012 year awarded in March 2013.