Didn't thinkk it would happen?

[oldngray]

If you argue the scripture interprets itself, I hope you don't go to a church and sit and listen to a preacher give his/her "interpretation" of the bible. That's not letting the bible speak for itself. Not to mention I hope you reference the hebrew from which the english is translated from? The english translated bible in many cases is horrible in reflecting hebrew thought and intent. Many words are not translated but transliterated and thus lose the original meaning and intent.

Reading the bible I completely agree with. Few christians do but yet they should.

I agree with you that you should read translations faithful to the original text and language because few people read or understand those languages then translations are necessary. Because a translation is a compromise between being literal or dynamic I also agree than reading more than one translation is a good idea. A parallel Bible is a good choice. The Hebrew would be the language of OT and Greek with a little Aramaic in the NT.

 

[trickpony1]

Where is Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson?
Why hasn't the White House sent reps to mediate?
Why haven't all the whites gone on a rampage and rioted, burned and looted?

If Obama had a son?

 

[moreluck]

So how would you interpret it?

Catholics were instructed in Cath. School (60's) to leave the interpretation up to the Pope...he's carrying the infallibility ball on this one. But, all of our protestant friends were well versed in the bible and they carried their bibles to church and studied them.
So, why don't you e-mail the pope and have a debate with him.

 

[wkmac]

I agree with you that you should read translations faithful to the original text and language and since few people read or understand those languages then translations are necessary. Because a translation is a compromise between being literal or dynamic I also agree than reading more than one translation is a good idea. A parallel Bible is a good choice. The Hebrew would be the language of OT and Greek with a little Aramaic in the NT.

Agreed but I'd also add that a good bible student should read the bible in one hand while holding about 2 shelves full of lexicons in the other. And yes I do. Have about 4 shelves of bibles I've accumulated over the years as well. All have their pros and cons.

Taken literal, the bible will manifest itself in the worse of humanity just as the Quran is doing now. History IMO proves this.

 

[bbsam]

Catholics were instructed in Cath. School (60's) to leave the interpretation up to the Pope...he's carrying the infallibility ball on this one. But, all of our protestant friends were well versed in the bible and they carried their bibles to church and studied them.
So, why don't you e-mail the pope and have a debate with him.

Because oldngray brought it up.

 

[bbsam]

Agreed but I'd also add that a good bible student should read the bible in one hand while holding about 2 shelves full of lexicons in the other. And yes I do. Have about 4 shelves of bibles I've accumulated over the years as well. All have their pros and cons.

Taken literal, the bible will manifest itself in the worse of humanity just as the Quran is doing now. History IMO proves this.

I have learned to see it somewhat differently. The Bible holds up a mirror to the worst of humanity and offers an alternative path for believers to follow.

 

[wkmac]

Catholics were instructed in Cath. School (60's) to leave the interpretation up to the Pope...he's carrying the infallibility ball on this one. But, all of our protestant friends were well versed in the bible and they carried their bibles to church and studied them.
So, why don't you e-mail the pope and have a debate with him.

The current pope has opened up publicly to dialogue with atheists/agnostics and said pope has also shown points of moderation on previous dogmatic issues.

As to this point:

Catholics were instructed in Cath. School (60's) to leave the interpretation up to the Pope...he's carrying the infallibility ball on this one.

Convenient position when one has such power and control. Serves to protect a vested self interest. The Donation of Constantine has been proven a fraud and from there it's all gone downhill. What say you now Pope? A universal christianity came to be not by the hand of god but by a fraud of men for the purpose of power.

Nothing new under the sun as the old scriptures say!

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Scripture is either applicable to our daily lives or it is faithless dribble.

Dribble----what you do with a ball.

Drivel----mindless blabber.

Come on, sam, you are black----you should know what "dribble" means.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Dribble----what you do with a ball.

Drivel----mindless blabber.

Come on, sam, you are black----you should know what "dribble" means.

Stereotyping? Not all black people,play basketball!

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Stereotyping? Not all black people,play basketball!

It was a joke meant for bbsam.

Go pad your post count somewhere else.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

It was a joke meant for bbsam.

Go pad your post count somewhere else.

Honestly,thought that it was rude .NOT funny. You really need to work,on that humor thing.

 

[bleedinbrown58]

It was a joke meant for bbsam.

Go pad your post count somewhere else.

Your jokes must really dazzle the ladies....lol

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Honestly,thought that it was rude .NOT funny. You really need to work,on that humor thing.

bbsam will appreciate it and that is all that really matters.

Why don't you and your simpleminded buddy go play with yourselves in the Nothingness thread?

 

[bleedinbrown58]

bbsam will appreciate it and that is all that really matters.

Why don't you and your simpleminded buddy go play with yourselves in the Nothingness thread?

Until you come and post in it!!

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

bbsam will appreciate it and that is all that really matters.

Why don't you and your simpleminded buddy go play with yourselves in the Nothingness thread?

You cant play nice. I try to get along ,with you. But you do not want peace.

upstates way or no way.
I hope you find peace and happiness.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Until you come and post in it!!

He has no good reply.. Now comes the, name calling.

 

[bleedinbrown58]

He has no good reply.. Now comes the, name calling.

Forget him...he isn't worth the energy. Some people are just mean spirited and bitter! Check out nothingness fluff

 

[superballs63]

Your jokes must really dazzle the ladies....lol

That's not the only thing that dazzles them, just ask his wi.....oh, sorry

 

[moreluck]

Smooth move !!!

"Alton Nolen, the suspect in Thursday’s beheading attack in Oklahoma, was on felony probation until 2017 but was given early release in April of this year."

 

[BrownMeetPurple]

Such ignorance, I am glad you people are a tiny minority. If given same circumstance, you will be the same as ISIS rats. Seeing your bigotry, it's funny and sad at the same time.

There are millions of us (Muslims) who work to provide for our families every day, just like you. We are doctors, lawyers, engineers, politicians, laborers and yes delivery persons too! If you are going to paint us all with a same brush, I'll believe that racism has not died and lynch mobs are still alive and active, releasing their negative energy online because they can't in public. Cowards.

and moreluck=helpless case.