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that could be one possible explanation; however, others do exist
Do we deserve $32+/hour
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that could be one possible explanation; however, others do exist
thedownhillEXPRESS
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Possibly even "B"-holes............
Does your significant other let you choose?
thedownhillEXPRESS
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Which is why I learned a while ago, let it go , in one ear and out the other. A p"od driver does work faster, and less conscious of the safety hazards. If they truly cared about safety, they wouldn't send us out of the barn spittin nails. Its called adrenalin, trying to protect yourself from the wrath of yesterday.
First you drive, that in itself is stressful. Then you have a truckload of stuff, loaded not by you, and depending on your load to be pretty good as one misload can ruin the day. You have time commitments, unexpected delays, unexpected ocas. Still having to make your pickups within +- 15 minutes.........Hopefully no businesses left after 5.....................I don't mind telematics, we are just doing what they pay us to do. Disgruntled people, bad day take it out on the ups person. Try to deliver this pkg but hide it from thugs, but make sure there is no big mean dog at the back door where the sign on the front door tells you to go, IN THE DARK.
Make sure if you are delayed, remember the next day, to confront the intel. I could never imagine a job making this kind of money. I also couldn't imagine doing it for less.
I think he is home.
Kevin Bengson
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You are ignorant if you fail to understand the intangible qualities necessary to accomplish what we do daily; it take much more than simply a driver's license and HS diploma... We deserve every penny.
browniehound
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Actually that's not entirely accurate. Less routes and more OT can be more proftable to UPS because they don't have to pay into the health and welfare after 8 hours/day or 40 hours/week.
browniehound
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Pre-loaders definitely deserve more. A lot more. $9.50? Come on, its not much more than minimum wage.
browniehound
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Great point. The odds of you dying in a commercial airline plane crash in your whole life is 1 in 66,000 if you take 1 round trip flight a year. A single flight is 1 in 1,000,000. Even an "air warrior" that flew every working day for 30 years has a 1 and 787 chance of dying in a crash.
Compare those stats with driving. The lifetime odds of dying in a car accident are about 1 and 158. Sounds like we should get hazard pay. No? We are on the road 10 times more than average Joe. So our odds might be more like 1 and 15.8 Ahh, but our UPS training will keep us safe and beat the odds. You can't, however, prevent that drunk crossing the center line and killing you and it doesn't matter how well you know the 10-point.
Yeah, we deserve hazard pay on top of the 32 bucks
Brokedownandbrown
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You worked the kid for three to five weeks, he also thought he would get apart time job after Christmas. Whats the kid doing now?
stealstime
Member
I don't make $32 an hour. Our pension rehab plan screwed us over. Doing the same for less! Pension plan still in critical status after giving up Two Years of raises!!!!!
TooTechie
Geek in Brown
Mine doesn't...I'm sure some preloaders are awesome but the one who loads my truck most days is awful. I find 3-4 misloads in my truck on average per day (in a P700), 3-5 packages fouind on the wrong shelf per day, and toward the end of his shift he throws 1-3000s on the floor somewhere in the middle of the truck under the bulk because he is just "throwing it in." Anything a little heavy he throws on the floor out of laziness instead of putting on the shelf, even if it is a tiny box. When putting bulk on the floor he doesn't put it below the shelf it should be on, he just puts it wherever he happens to drop it. He has flat out told me "I am retiring in 5 months so I don't give a friend*." I typically have to fix his screw-ups for 15 minutes off the clock (yes I realize I shouldn't touch a box before my shift starts) before my morning meeting, then finish loading my own truck on the clock for an average of 20 minutes after the PCM while all the other drivers are outside doing a pretrip or on their way to their routes....I know there are lots of good preloaders but I rarely get lucky enough to get one.
Bubblehead
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Great point. The odds of you dying in a commercial airline plane crash in your whole life is 1 in 66,000 if you take 1 round trip flight a year. A single flight is 1 in 1,000,000. Even an "air warrior" that flew every working day for 30 years has a 1 and 787 chance of dying in a crash.
Compare those stats with driving. The lifetime odds of dying in a car accident are about 1 and 158. Sounds like we should get hazard pay. No? We are on the road 10 times more than average Joe. So our odds might be more like 1 and 15.8 Ahh, but our UPS training will keep us safe and beat the odds. You can't, however, prevent that drunk crossing the center line and killing you and it doesn't matter how well you know the 10-point.
Yeah, we deserve hazard pay on top of the 32 bucks
YES!!!!!
UPS is getting a bargain and we know it.
Great point. The odds of you dying in a commercial airline plane crash in your whole life is 1 in 66,000 if you take 1 round trip flight a year. A single flight is 1 in 1,000,000. Even an "air warrior" that flew every working day for 30 years has a 1 and 787 chance of dying in a crash.
Compare those stats with driving. The lifetime odds of dying in a car accident are about 1 and 158. Sounds like we should get hazard pay. No? We are on the road 10 times more than average Joe. So our odds might be more like 1 and 15.8 Ahh, but our UPS training will keep us safe and beat the odds. You can't, however, prevent that drunk crossing the center line and killing you and it doesn't matter how well you know the 10-point.
Yeah, we deserve hazard pay on top of the 32 bucks
A school teachers should get BattleZone Hazard pay.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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He is a FT college student who was offered a job w/UPS in March but couldn't work it around his schedule. He will be starting w/UPS this summer.
bleedinbrown58
That’s Craptacular
Drivers work their asses off everyday...and have to deal with the public and ****ty weather...they deserve every penny. That being said, yes us preloaders should get more than we make, to a point. I'm a woman in my early 30's. Everyday, i outload guys more than 10 yrs younger than me...better load quality, heavier assignment. And then when i'm done with my 1300+ pieces, i'm asked to go help this one or that one finish, because he's backed up and it's 9am. So i do, because i have to, and of course their trucks look like a bomb imploded
pretender
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This is more accurate for Feeder drivers--Some days you feel overpaid, and other days there is not enough money in the world...So, it all balances out. If you are a Package driver, there is always someone there to make sure you don't feel underpaid.
laffter
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Maybe this applies to most people or maybe this applies mostly to drivers, but as a preloader, when I'm pissed off, I say eff it and take my time. If I can keep up with the flow, I'm happy and I bust my ass to do it. If they're throwing so much at me that I can't keep up, then I see no reason to bust my ass just to remain behind. Happiness doesn't necessarily make me relax and be slow.
Similarly, if I show up to work early and I'm bombarded with 6 bulk stops 10 minutes prior to start time, you start feeling pressured to begin working right away. Therefore, I'll leave it alone until it's time to start. If the flow starts off easy... and it's not start time yet, I'll go ahead and load a few boxes unpaid. No big deal.
bluehdmc
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Does ANY CEO or other corporate office deserve multi-million dollar paychecks?
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