DOT Hours of service change.

[Red Devil]

It's almost like safety wasn't a factor in making these changes.

Yeah no kidding. But why not then just make it 18 hours? 20? Maybe the DOT rule should say you can’t work any more than 24 hours in a row unless the company provides your amphetamines.

 

[silverbullet2893]

Somebody ask jumping jack ass if they changed the hours for pilots too

@Jumpin Jack Flash did they change the hours for pilots too?

 

[brett636]

The HOS rules have changed, but it appears UPS is sticking with the old rules for now. They typically follow stricter rules than those put out by the DOT to reduce the risk of violations. Maybe they will change by this peak, but I haven’t heard anything official.

 

[bumped]

Who's working 8 hours without a break?

I do. I live at the end of my route now, so I take my lunch and breaks at home.

 

[Wally]

I do. I live at the end of my route now, so I take my lunch and breaks at home.

Not allowed in my local. Diad will need time entered between 11am-3 pm.

 

[AKCoverMan]

Yes all drivers. 11 hours of drive time up to 13 under adverse conditions.

Yes but it’s driving time, and in package we spend half our time selecting packages, delivering, and picking up. It would take a very very rural route with very low stop density and lots of miles to get tomeight hours of behind-the-wheel drive time in a day.

 

[Rack em]

Yes but it’s driving time, and in package we spend half our time selecting packages, delivering, and picking up. It would take a very very rural route with very low stop density and lots of miles to get tomeight hours of behind-the-wheel drive time in a day.

I've heard of a route that does 12-15 stops a day and it's over 12 hours every day. I can't imagine it's less than 11 hours of drive time.

 

[Jones]

I've heard of a route that does 12-15 stops a day and it's over 12 hours every day. I can't imagine it's less than 11 hours of drive time.

It doesn't matter because package drivers don't keep a log book. The only thing that counts in package is on duty time.

 

[Red Devil]

I've heard of a route that does 12-15 stops a day and it's over 12 hours every day. I can't imagine it's less than 11 hours of drive time.

Imagine finding a missing piece late in the day on that one

 

[Seymour Packages]

Imagine finding a missing piece late in the day on that one

#missed and keep it moving. I don't care if its NDA early am critical medical, they will get it tomorrow.

 

[burrheadd]

#missed and keep it moving. I don't care if its NDA early am critical medical, they will get it tomorrow.

You’ll do whatever your boss instructs you to do
Tough guy

 

[Seymour Packages]

You’ll do whatever your boss instructs you to do
Tough guy

After I'm back at the building and punched out? Naw. Nice try though.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

#missed and keep it moving. I don't care if its NDA early am critical medical, they will get it tomorrow.

That's not the right attitude

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

It doesn't matter because package drivers don't keep a log book. The only thing that counts in package is on duty time.

Which is exactly why the hours of service rules should not be the same as a tractor-trailer driver. And if you dig in to the rules, you might find that they actually are not the same.

 

[AKCoverMan]

I've heard of a route that does 12-15 stops a day and it's over 12 hours every day. I can't imagine it's less than 11 hours of drive time.

It is. You can actually get driving time out of telematics. Subtract out lunches, breaks, am time, pm time, all time spent at stops. If your really behind the wheel over 11 hours you are in violation. But I bet not.

 

[Over70irregs]

Take your lunch and breaks. Your body and wallet will thank you.

 

[quad decade guy]

#missed and keep it moving. I don't care if its NDA early am critical medical, they will get it tomorrow.

attaboy....run off another customer.

 

[Wally]

attaboy....run off another customer.

The company could make sure drivers are not overwhelmed. You throw more stops in than a driver can do in one day and service will suffer.

 

[quad decade guy]

The company could make sure drivers are not overwhelmed. You throw more stops in than a driver can do in one day and service will suffer.

Point is-his hateful punitive attitude.....towards the customer. I'm no homer but believe it or not...customers remember. We need all we can get.

 

[Seymour Packages]

Point is-his hateful punitive attitude.....towards the customer. I'm no homer but believe it or not...customers remember. We need all we can get.

It's not punitive at all. It's reality. My customers on my route love me. I rarely if ever miss a package and I don't have service failures if I can help it. However when the company piles on more work than physically possible, blowing out a 1000 just because they can, SERVICE WILL SUFFER. Period. There WILL be late air, missed pieces, etc. These are the facts of life. Especially on rural/split routes where a missed pkg found later in the day can be up to 20 minutes or more away. I remember when there was at least a semblance of caring about the customer at UPS. Those days are long gone. So please, get off your high horse and realize that the suits that sit behind computers and load us up like rented mules run off many more customers than a driver ever could.