Dovetail list mess up

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Kmic, Sep 30, 2019.

  1. Kmic

    Kmic New Member

    I have been a part timer at ups for almost 18years. Came back from a vacation to find out a fellow employee who’s below me on the seniority list got a full time job off the dovetail list. Four people actually got the call. Since I knew I signed the list I called the union lady who makes the calls for the dovetail list, and she said she tried to call me five times over three different days. From what she said my phone would keep ringing and my voicemail never picked up so she bypassed me and moved to the next person. I know I have no issues with my phone. Looked at my call log online and no call from the union. So through no fault of my own I missed my shot on these full time jobs. I’m told they can’t reverse what happened because the people who got the posts might’ve quit another job or changed their lives in some other way so they could fill the post. Supposedly I’m first on the list now for the next jobs but who knows when they will be or if they will be at a time I can work, which the four filled jobs were at a time I could accept the position. One of those jobs should be mine.

    Since this was caused by someone in the union I can’t file a grievance right? Is there anything I can do?
  2. UnconTROLLed

    UnconTROLLed perfection

    passed up for one of your locals good ol boys. Oldest trick
  3. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    What is a dovetail list?
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  4. eats packages

    eats packages I have depth perception issues

    Here it is a late signup for certain lists such as FT and 22.4. If you sign 6 months late from the original October posting then you get tacked to the end "dovetailed". HR is supposed to attempt to physically contact you for jobs if the cellphone does not work in WR, new language added to make that one crystal clear. After you pass your qualifying period you should totally file to get your seniority updated for missing months due to being skipped on a list.
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  5. Kmic

    Kmic New Member

    Here the list is for part timers to sign if they are interested in a full time job. They go to the list when they can’t fill a job basically.
  6. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    File on it, you got nothing to lose.
  7. UnconTROLLed

    UnconTROLLed perfection

    Something to gain though, retaliation by co. and union. ;)
  8. UnconTROLLed

    UnconTROLLed perfection

    As said, qualify first and make sure to write everything down. Phone records/lack of and witnesses help
  9. rod

    rod #1 on Upstates "list"

    Dumb question but does the Union have your CORRECT number?
  10. Kmic

    Kmic New Member

    When she contacted me back after I left her a voicemail stating my number. I asked if it was the same number she had been trying to contact me with. She said it was. It just doesn’t make sense that something was wrong with my phone five times. Nobody else has had a problem getting my voicemail.

    She could have contacted my steward in my department to double check my number or to ask me to contact her if I was interested.

    Which is what they are going to do from now on. Atleast that is what I was told...
  11. rod

    rod #1 on Upstates "list"

    another UPS mystery--good luck
  12. eats packages

    eats packages I have depth perception issues

    I am in the same boat. Local is aware, we are going to act on it after my qualification. Just too risky to file before. A phone call is not enough to skip your place on a bid sheet. This fact may allow me to get back-dated into a regular driver position.
  13. Dr.Brownz

    Dr.Brownz Well-Known Member

    Grieve until they fire you

    Then get a lawyer and sue them until they give money

    I'[m drunk, on vaca, didn't read your post but my advice should work
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  14. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    If you were truly "skipped", wouldn't you be due more than just a "dovetailed" seniority date???