Drivers who qualified under new contract ??

[Tough Guy]

If part-timers cared enough to get together and vote, they would direct the contracts.

That's true enough, I can't argue with that. My guess would be, that most of the part timers are people who are content to remain part time for their careers.

And the part timers who are aiming to drive are part of the ones who vote.

 

[Brownslave688]

Give backs...thank the membership for not voting.

I don't have a huge problem with longer progression. Hell I would vote for 5year progression if it was a better progression. This $10+ jump at the end is stupid.

 

[Tough Guy]

Really!??!!? When i started driving 20 years ago, I made top rate in 2 years and it was $19.76/hour. And you're bummed about only making a dollar less per hour?!?!? In 4 years you'll be making over $90k. You'll survive.



When i first saw that progression went from 2 years to 3 years, then to 3.5, then to 4 years, I was a little bummed for the newer drivers. In the ned I thought it was pretty realistic. Why should you make $90k in 2 years when we were making half of that at TR 20 years ago? I made $41k+OT at TR. Was pretty happy to make that without college degree. And to make $90k now without a college degree, I'm pretty damn satisfied. I have friends with Master's Degrees who make half of that. $40k is still a good amount of money especially when you know that you'll be making more than double that in 4 years.

That's an understandable point as well, but new drivers shouldn't have to wait 4 years to get too pay, when most of them already had to wait at least 5 years just for a CHANCE to drive. I could maybe understand a longer progression being agreed on for outside hires. But for those of us that waited a long time as pters, it's a slap in the face to have added an additional progression year.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I don't have a huge problem with longer progression. Hell I would vote for 5year progression if it was a better progression. This $10+ jump at the end is stupid.

It's more than$10

 

[cosmo1]

No ..12k a year paycut.

I think the year I did 22.3, it was only about a buck or two an hour. I more than made up for the difference getting sent out a couple days a week to help or deliver air.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I think the year I did 22.3, it was only about a buck or two an hour. I more than made up for the difference getting sent out a couple days a week to help or deliver air.

It's atleast a good $6 an hour and no OT.
Big difference on payday.

 

[jbg77]

Really!??!!? When i started driving 20 years ago, I made top rate in 2 years and it was $19.76/hour. And you're bummed about only making a dollar less per hour?!?!? In 4 years you'll be making over $90k. You'll survive.





When i first saw that progression went from 2 years to 3 years, then to 3.5, then to 4 years, I was a little bummed for the newer drivers. In the ned I thought it was pretty realistic. Why should you make $90k in 2 years when we were making half of that at TR 20 years ago? I made $41k+OT at TR. Was pretty happy to make that without college degree. And to make $90k now without a college degree, I'm pretty damn satisfied. I have friends with Master's Degrees who make half of that. $40k is still a good amount of money especially when you know that you'll be making more than double that in 4 years.

Although I agree that it is worth the wait, it is slightly unfair to compare a salary 20 years ago to a salary today. Gas was .89 a gallon then, there were .25 pay phones, and a taco at taco bell was .59.

 

[Brownslave688]

It's more than$10

Hence the plus sign.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Hence the plus sign.

They probably hope you quit before you hit too rate.

 

[Brownslave688]

It's atleast a good $6 an hour and no OT.
Big difference on payday.

It depends on when you started.


For guys that started when pt ft pay was the same there's almost no pay cut.

 

[Brownslave688]

They probably hope you quit before you hit too rate.

Hence the no 9.5 while in progression.


Work those bitches.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

It depends on when you started.


For guys that started when pt ft pay was the same there's almost no pay cut.

If I took an article 22.3 job...big pay cut

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Hence the no 9.5 while in progression.


Work those bitches.

That's what they do.
They won't be at bottom scale by the end of this contract.

 

[Brownslave688]

Although I agree that it is worth the wait, it is slightly unfair to compare a salary 20 years ago to a salary today. Gas was .89 a gallon then, there were .25 pay phones, and a taco at taco bell was .59.

Both my parents salaries doubled or more over the course of their careers.


Because an old timer feels like he makes a lot of money I shouldn't be entitled to the same raises?

 

[Brownslave688]

If I took an article 22.3 job...big pay cut

How many years do you have in?

 

[jbg77]

20 years ago I made 5.75

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

How many years do you have in?

Almost 30

 

[cosmo1]

It's atleast a good $6 an hour and no OT.
Big difference on payday.

Times have changed.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Times have changed.

An article 22.2 job is much better.

 

[Brownslave688]

Almost 30

So your inside rate is probably what $27-$28