JL 0513
Well-Known Member
In the first week he's done what he could do without Congress. Do you think Congress would have already gathered together to pass new legislations or repeals in week one?
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In the first week he's done what he could do without Congress. Do you think Congress would have already gathered together to pass new legislations or repeals in week one?
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
With his pen and his phone right? Bunch of hypocrites.
JL 0513
Well-Known Member
Executive orders are fine when Constitutional. Trump's were.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
I think you and I disagree on constitutional interpretation and the role of the office of the president. I take a conservative approach, and you take a whatever suits your agenda approach, like most republicans and democrats.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
Well it's certainly appropriate. Kenny powers was a big joke too.
JL 0513
Well-Known Member
Trump has never said Mexico will be writing a check (electronically wiring) for the wall.
That said, Trump probably never needed to suggest that Mexico will end up paying for a wall that a large portion of American are perfectly fine paying for with tax dollars.
wkmac
Well-Known Member
That is correct, he never said the means by which Mexico would pay for the wall, he just said that Mexico would in fact "pay for the wall."
For the record, I'm opposed to my tax dollars being used to build a wall because among other things, walls are often more effective at keeping people in than keeping people out.
BrownArmy
Well-Known Member
No matter how you parse his words, or your opinion on what you think he should or shouldn't have said, he said Mexico would pay for the wall, full stop.
If the wall gets built, you and I will pay for it. You might be fine with that, I'm simply not. The wall will be ineffective and likely cost over twenty billion dollars.
Amazing how the congressional Republicans all of a sudden have no problem dropping money like drunken sailors. The hypocrisy is maddening.
moreluck
golden ticket member
Hey, people like Schumer, Pelosi and Waters are twiddling their thumbs......business as usual on their part.
moreluck
golden ticket member
Obama was dropping money as he walked out the door to foreign nations, not ours.
BrownArmy
Well-Known Member
Obama's not President anymore, ttku.
JL 0513
Well-Known Member
I'm more about fiscal responsibility than just about any other issue, but also believe we need a secure border. A really secure boarder.
I'm into numbers and just for peoples information, $20B is .005% of the Federal governments expenditures each year. It's a rounding error, sadly.
In other words, us drivers making $90K a year? That's $4.50 out of our annual income. Would you spend $4.50 to put up a fence around your yard?
BrownArmy
Well-Known Member
Maybe, but I wouldn't expect my neighbor to pay for it!
JL 0513
Well-Known Member
Fair enough. Like I said, Trump would be better off just not talking about who would pay for the wall. As pointed out, the cost of a wall is minuscule in our budget. Not worth the battle with Mexico.
BrownArmy
Well-Known Member
Also not worth building.
Immigration from Mexico is actually going the other way.
What's the point?
JL 0513
Well-Known Member
Illegal immigration should be zero. It'll never be zero but that's the goal.
Babagounj
Strength through joy
Slowing down the flow of illegal drugs into this country .
In case you haven't seen any of the videos , many of the illegals coming into the country from the south are being used as pack mules for the drug cartels.
