Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by 1989NW, Apr 14, 2020.
What a Steven
I made this post while on meal, better use of time than driving off the clock
Rule #1 of ups: never move anything for free. Including your bowels
I assume this wasn't UpstateNYUPSer? Lol.
You assume correctly. We have pretty much seen his type in the cartoons, not in our drivers ranks. What a joke.
First, there was a lawsuit filed a few years ago by a California local for this exact reason and the company was fined, I believe, by the State DOL and forced to backpay all the drivers at the one and a half time rate for all hours that were identified. The company started enforcing it everywhere because they know it is everywhere and now they can say that they are attempting to make everyone take their lunch. Less liability that way.
Second, if you are a RPCD you are better off than feeders. The DOT mandates at least a half by the end of the 8th hour or you are violating federal law. It has always been a point of contention to whether RPCD drivers are DOT on all laws. We follow the hours of service and DOT physicals but rarely do we have a CDL. Maybe Big Union Guy can shed more light on this one?
Third, I'm sure your supplement mandates at least a half hour lunch which means you are violating the contract. You can not pick which parts of the contract you want to disobey. Just take the 1/2 hour at time and half and buy the kids a special treat every year. It is funny that the company pushes this even though they really don't want the extra time on their books.
By the letter of the law, you are being dishonest(falsifying company records) nut this isn't usually something the company fires for but they see if it changes. If it doesn't, they get you for insubordination as well. In a week or 2 ,they usually back off once they see their numbers slipping.
Yea that’s dumb. You are throwing away a lot of money
Management in my barn requires everyone to “record” 30 minutes of lunch because every afternoon it was a battle between the ass kissers as to who got in and off first and as a result pickups had to be reassigned to the slower of the group and if necessary the slower ones were forced to take as much lunch as necessary to wait for pickup times
You're using the wrong terminology. They're not "forced" lunches. They're protected lunches.
Not much better than an extra (paid) lunch, while waiting for pickups
You lilkah da jooce, eh?
They cannot force you to take another lunch because you are waiting for pick ups. Lunch is to be taken during the contractual time window and they cannot make you take another lunch just because there is dead time. At least here that don't fly.
Being kiss asses they didn’t take any lunch to begin with.
Unless you are a 22 4 driver and have to take up to 90 minutes of lunch?
I probably should have clarified they aren’t taking any lunch which is why they are finishing so far ahead of their last pickup.
Oh that makes sense then.
The contract says that time period would be in between inside building work and driving work if needed.
You know it's pretty much all driving only That's what they use them here for
Well we all knew that would happen. Ups wasn't going to pay someone driver wages to load cars when they can use them as a discount ground driver instead.
No kidding brother!!
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