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cachsux
Wah
I`ll take a drunk with a gun anytime. Odds are they`ll miss more often than when they`re close enough to hit you.
Ask the spouse or child of a drunk. A drunk will lose their temper and stay fired up long enough to do real damage.
island1fox
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How about the "Judge" a handgun made by Taurus that shoots shotgun shells. The gun is named for the huge number of U.S. judges that "carry" the Judge into their courtrooms.
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
When your government starts requiring background checks or waiting periods every time you buy a six pack...or tries to regulate how many ounces can be in each bottle...or subjects you to fingerprinting....or makes you register every bottle of beer you buy...... that will be an accurate statement. Until then its a crock of BS.
In any case, those "strict laws" are doing nothing to change the fact that alcohol still kills more people than guns do, and you still have not answered my question.
Should alcohol be subject to the same level of restriction that you want to place on guns in order to save lives? Or do you only advocate limits on other peoples rights?
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
Those things are a gimmick in my opinion, and a terrible choice for self-defense. The .410 shotgun round was designed for children and recoil-sensitive people to hunt small game with. Its ballistics are totally inadequate for use as a self defense round. And in order to chamber the .410's the gun itself is far longer and bulkier than a conventional revolver. It only holds 5 rounds, you cant use speed loaders with it, and the empty .410 casings are too long for the ejector rod so you have to manually extract each one by hand. If I owned one I would load it with .45 Long Colt hollowpoints for defense, but if you are going to carry a revolver that big and heavy it ought to be a 6-shot .357 Magnum instead.
klein
Für Meno :)
I am not going to compare a 6 pack of beer with a weapon. That's just not possible.
If you want to compare what is healthier for a human body, 2 cans of beer or 2 cans of soda pop, now that's a topic.
But, comparing a legal beverage to a deadly weapon, just makes no sense to me.
Therfore, I give up - you win ! Now smile, and hope you can get a good nights rest now !
If you want to compare what is healthier for a human body, 2 cans of beer or 2 cans of soda pop, now that's a topic.
But, comparing a legal beverage to a deadly weapon, just makes no sense to me.
Therfore, I give up - you win ! Now smile, and hope you can get a good nights rest now !
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
View attachment 4919I want this one. Well, actually I want all of them but this one I want first.
There is a reason that the 1911's are still going strong 100 years after they were originally designed. They are the small-block Chevy of pistols and they will undoubtedly be around for another 100 years. That being said, I would never choose one for concealed carry myself, I simply cannot handle the idea of carrying one "cocked and locked" even though I know that with a proper holster it is perfectly safe to do so.
cachsux
Wah
The day that happens he`ll be running for America seeking asylum.
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
Both are inantimate objects that can be deadly if misused.
Both are legal but subject to certain restrictions.
Both are things that are desired by certain members of society but disliked by others.
The only difference is that those who are ignorant or scared of one of the objects wish to prohibit others from having them.
tourists24
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Klein dont wanna give up his Heinie
Babagounj
Strength through joy
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dilligaf
IN VINO VERITAS
That is one of the reasons why I still like my 9. It's double action. All I have to do is pull the trigger. I realize that it does not have as much stopping power as a 45 but it does have other advantages.
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
That is one of the reasons why I still like my 9. It's double action. All I have to do is pull the trigger. I realize that it does not have as much stopping power as a 45 but it does have other advantages.
+1
Most of the time my carry gun is a 9mm Glock 26. They are ugly, chunky little guns with none of the classic elegance of a 1911, but they are simple and reliable and they just plain work. I also have a Ruger LCR alloy-framed .38 Special that carries really nicely in a front pocket holster on hot days when I need something really light and compact.
Let's stop by and get the hookers and blow too. Now we're talking PARTY!
trplnkl
555
I agree that the Judge would be a bad choice for a concealed carry gun (because of size and bulkiness), however for home defense I think it would be really good. The .410 will not go through more than one wall and does spread out a little. Close range it makes a really big hole with a huge punch. Home invaders would be in deep dodo.
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
Check out www.theboxotruth.com for some real-world ballistics and penetration comparisons for various cartridges, including the .410. Reliable performance in a self-defense cartridge requires adequate penetration and the .410 round is totally inadequate in that regard. A 3" buckshot load for the .410 consists of three 70 gr. pellets moving at about 1300fps which is basically the equivalent of a hot .32 acp round. They will make a nasty flesh wound but against an attacker hopped up on drugs or adrenaline its not enough.
"...real-world ballistics and penetration.... Reliable perfomance...requires adequate penetration...totally inadequate.... A 3" buckshot load of .410...1300fps...a hot .32.... They will make a nasty flesh wound...." LOL. I'm not gonna jump to jump to any conclusion about people over-compensating for certain deficiencies, but this gun talk does seem to have a sexual charge to it. Or I could just be a gutter-dwelling pervert.
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