Hey DIDO

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

That’s not a thing.

Wrong.

 

[fishtm2001]

Roberts knows there's nothing in the text of the Constitution allowing Congress to impeach, convict, or disqualify former officials from holding future office.

So an official can only be disqualified while he or she still holds office? Therefore an elected official who gets impeached could avoid accountability just by resigning one minute before the Senate’s conviction vote.? That's not the "checks and balances" envisioned by the framers.

 

[fishtm2001]

The Framers specifically devised the disqualification power to guard against the possibility of a demagogue who sought to overthrow democracy from holding a future political office. Just because the failed plot reached its peak too close to the end of his or her term does not get the perp off.

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

Therefore an elected official who gets impeached could avoid accountability just by resigning one minute before the Senate’s conviction vote.? That's not the "checks and balances" envisioned by the framers.

Why are you under the impression that former politicians are immune from the criminal justice system? He holds no office, the Senate has no authority. If a high crime or misdemeanor was committed, arrest him, take him to court.

No, you fascists know he committed no crime. You know no legitimate court would find him guilty. That's why you want to try him in your kangaroo court instead.

 

[upschuck]

Roberts knows there's nothing in the text of the Constitution barring Congress from impeaching, convicting, and disqualifying former officials from holding future office.

Watched CBS's coverage, and they said there are two votes, one to remove from office, and then the second would be to bar any future service to the country. The first has to be agreed to before the second vote happens. Since the first cant be accomplished, no use having these hearings.

 

[oldngray]

Watched CBS's coverage, and they said there are two votes, one to remove from office, and then the second would be to bar any future service to the country. The first has to be agreed to before the second vote happens. Since the first cant be accomplished, no use having these hearings.

Not enough votes to convict in the Senate anyway so pointless political show.

 

[upschuck]

you fascists know he committed no crime. You know no legitimate court would find him guilty. That's why you want to try him in your kangaroo court instead.

I don't know about that.

 

[upschuck]

Not enough votes to convict in the Senate anyway so pointless political show.

Not the point. Sad that everything is so political.

 

[over9five]

and then the second would be to bar any future service to the country.

Why do the Democrats want to disenfranchise so many voters?
That's REALLY two-faced.

 

[It will be fine]

Not the point. Sad that everything is so political.

Are you really surprised politics is political?

 

[newfie]

Without the nuclear option you cuccks would block a conviction . Ttku. ..

this salem witch trial should be blocked. Its total nonsense. But if we're going to run military style tribunals i guess we could do one for Obama and his drone strikes on civilians?

 

[newfie]

Roberts knows it's unconstitutional. Would put SCOTUS in a terrible position if he participated.

its not legitimate for that reason and has no merit. It only has value as a dog and pony show

 

[newfie]

That’s not a thing. A person convicted in an impeachment trial doesn’t get to appeal to the Supreme Court. The Senate is the high court in an impeachment trial.

its not an impeachment trial when the president is out of office and the chief justice says he can not constitutionally participate. you snowflakes are fabricating your own standards of justice for political reasons.

 

[upschuck]

Are you really surprised politics is political?

No. Adults aren't supposed to pout, take their ball, and go home.

 

[trickpony1]

....their....

Hope this helps.

 

[newfie]

I don't know about that.

if you're going to deny the sitting president of the united states his first ammendment rights on this subject then the standard has to be evenly applied to every (there are many) democrat who told their supporters to attack trump voters.

 

[upschuck]

....their....

Hope this helps.

It does, thanks. Auto correct should be called auto incorrect

 

[upschuck]

if you're going to deny the sitting president of the united states his first ammendment rights on this subject then the standard has to be evenly applied to every (there are many) democrat who told their supporters to attack trump voters.

Applied to everyone. I'm not blinded by a D,R,I,G or whatever other designation anyone is.

 

[newfie]

Applied to everyone. I'm not blinded by a D,R,I,G or whatever other designation anyone is.

its the ultimate irony of this situation. Democratic leaders have been telling their supporters to go out and find and attack trump supporters for 4 years. They try to get any trump supporter they can find fired from their jobs banned from social media etc . They have looked the other way and or encouraged the physical violence we saw in our cities this summer. And now we're going to impeach a president for exercising his first ammendment rights because some of his supporters planned and executed an attack on the capital while Trump was still speaking. This my friend is total political BS

 

[fishtm2001]

"The reason to convict Trump and bar him from office forever is rather simple: No sitting president has ever incited a violent attack on Congress. Allowing Trump to do so without sanction would invite a future president with autocratic ambitions and greater competence to execute a successful overthrow of the federal government, rather than the soft echo of post-Reconstruction violence the nation endured in early January. The political incentives for the Republican Party in convicting Trump may be unclear, but the stakes for democracy are not. The Senate must make clear that attempted coups, no matter how clumsy or ineffective, are the type of crime that is answered with swift and permanent exile from American political life."

Adam Serwer