UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
What type of hearing are you talking about? Are you being disciplined for this?
I guess I do not understand your question. Is a letter discipline, if I never got it? I guess it is, if its in my file. And no I am not asking to see my file, my union is doing that.What type of hearing are you talking about? Are you being disciplined for this?
Never wanted to do anything. But I have to clear my name. And thank you I think I did the right thing.I was wondering what the hearing was about. I didn't realize that you had filed a grievance. Good for you.
The only settlement that I would agree to would be a public apology at the PCM.
i would rather die than give in to these DBs.
I'm curious and I mean no disrespect when I ask this, but after a 20 plus year career here, how are you not aware of the discipline procedures and such of how things are handled by both the union and the company in regards to things like this?I guess I do not understand your question. Is a letter discipline, if I never got it? I guess it is, if its in my file. And no I am not asking to see my file, my union is doing that.
Is discipline being treated badly for an accident I dont believe I had, I think it is. I have not seen the accident report, I want to know how, with all due respect he determined I hit the dog. The union is getting that info also.
I filed a grievance, called harassment, because at the very least, he should have told me, before he told the whole building, that I was being charged. And then after the pcm tell me, and do I have any questions?
Im not good at this, but I am getting better. I have never had to fight for my integrity. I fought this battle on here, and I feel I won. I really do not care what anyone else thinks but I appreciate all input.
If you think I rest easy about the dog being killed after seeing it dead, no I do not. If you think its over because I got no letter, it is not.
As an animal rescuer, an animal lover, and the proud mommy of many rescued dogs, as I said before, I would have wrecked a commercial vehicle before hitting an animal, child, car, ball, etc. That can be fixed an replaced.
Fixing how I was made to feel with no recourse, I was pushed to a state I never wanted to be.
And now you can post all your swiss chees pics whatever you want to do because it was just wrong period.
That and her record cleared. I would also ask for the harassment to acknowledged by management so she has documented proof of past practices against her if something like this happens again.I was wondering what the hearing was about. I didn't realize that you had filed a grievance. Good for you.
The only settlement that I would agree to would be a public apology at the PCM.
I'd prefer to get even.i would rather die than give in to these DBs.
That and her record cleared.
My dog is peacefully and lovingly dying from cancer and old age. Hold on to them and never let them wander.
I'm curious and I mean no disrespect when I ask this, but after a 20 plus year career here, how are you not aware of the discipline procedures and such of how things are handled by both the union and the company in regards to things like this?
I wouldn't blindly just let the union take care of it. You need to be so involved in the oversight of this process and watch both sides. If you want it to end the right way it should be. I hope you are documenting and collecting evidence on your own as well. You have more of an investment in this fight than both the union or ups.
It's easy to act on emotion and make decisions while being emotionally charged up. But I promise you, decisions solely on emotion never work in the person's favor. Don't let the situation that happened control you. Don't let the way ups handled it and the emotional damage it did control you.
You control how this will be handled by being grounded, firm and take all the emotion out of it. Investigate, collect evidence and present it on your terms. The union will fight for you but you have to be the biggest one fighting for you.
Otherwise they know your weakness is emotional reactions and they will use that against you. Make them prove without a doubt that was an accident you did. Facts facts facts.
Leave the emotions at home and deal with that on your own terms. Don't let them see you upset or crying over this.
Otherwise they will win.
I am not letting the union do everything. Except as for any and all information, on this "accident investigation" According to the union contract in my area, they have to send or hand the letter to me. I have my documentation, I have my side of the story. All I can do is wait. If I start acting fanatical, I would appear unstable. Until the end of the story, I will do as I have always done.What frustrates me about all of this is her "let the union do everything" attitude. BFF is absolutely right-----she needs to take control of her own destiny. If I had heard that union had a copy of the warning letter and had not yet received it I would have been on the phone asking them to forward a copy to me. That is just one of several instances where she needed to be proactive rather than reactive or even passive.
Its all about balls. They dropped the ball, they passed the ball, or they didnt have any.
I am not letting the union do everything. Except as for any and all information, on this "accident investigation"
Thank you.That is one of the funniest statements, I have ever read here.
You go girl.
Good job, on being proactive.
-Bug-