How to sum up Orion

Wally

BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
Orion is the perfect example of managment trying to control via technology, without fully understanding the ramifications, the results of which is stressful to all, particularly the route driver.

Successful route drivers are at certain locations during the day for specific reasons, usually these reasons have to do with being at another key location later in the day. ODO, set up correctly, serves this function well. Orion, with its "one note" matrix of cutting miles, completely fails to grasp this reality.

The company would have done far better fine tuning ODO. You could cut some miles without the headaches. Don't reinvent the wheel, just make it roll a bit easier.
 

oldngray

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Brownslave688

You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
Orion is the perfect example of managment trying to control via technology, without fully understanding the ramifications, the results of which is stressful to all, particularly the route driver.

Successful route drivers are at certain locations during the day for specific reasons, usually these reasons have to do with being at another key location later in the day. ODO, set up correctly, serves this function well. Orion, with its "one note" matrix of cutting miles, completely fails to grasp this reality.

The company would have done far better fine tuning ODO. You could cut some miles without the headaches. Don't reinvent the wheel, just make it roll a bit easier.
Not stressful at all to me.
 

Heavy Package

Well-Known Member
The stupidity of forcing ORION without the ability to load the car (PAL / SPA labels) in ORION order, and the inability of UPS to fix this in short order is just a prime example of the piss poor management at UPS.

Removal of RDO in November Peak season of 2018 is another jackass move made by moronic management.
 

Chnandler Bong

Well-Known Member
I got a $20k a year raise to drive around more and deliver less. How exactly is this a bad thing?

It can’t be good for the long term success of the company. Inefficiency would seem to threaten our future pensions. There are plenty of possible obstacles to overcome in maintaining our pensions...we don’t need to be causing self-inflicted wounds.
 

soberups

Pees in the brown Koolaid
Orion is a tool , not a solution ( yes your first stop is in your 8k shelf)
Our job is to pound nails.
RDO is a hammer.
ORION is a rubber spatula with glitter and ribbons on it.
Our current method of delivery...is basically to attach a rock to the glitter-covered spatula with baling wire and duct tape in order to jury-rig a crude replacement for the RDO hammer that the company took away from us so that they could make believe that the glitter covered spatula worked and give a raise to the guy who invented it.
 

soberups

Pees in the brown Koolaid
As drivers, we are supposed to follow the 340 methods.
These methods are the very foundation of our job and are grilled into us from day one.
Failure to follow these methods is grounds for discipline, up to and including termination.
I downloaded a copy of the 340 methods and hghlighted the ones that are completely incompatible with ORION.
The company has literally created a no-win scenario where we have been given conflicting instructions and we are wrong no matter which instruction we follow.
Conflicting instructions under threat of discipline is harrassment and over-supervision, which are prohibited under article 37 of the contract.
These are the methods that are incompatible with ORION:

Section 1 paragraph 2—have a set routine
Section 3 paragraph 4- minimize miles, choose travel path to avoid unneccesary delays
Section 3 paragraph 5- use knowledge of delivery area
Section 3 paragraph 6- follow planned pickup order and choose best path to minimize miles
Section 3 paragraph 8-park appropriately for stops close together, park closest to stop with most difficult package handling situation
Section 4- paragraph 1- planning ahead, negate the need for constant rechecking and rehandling of packages, make fine adjustments to delivery sequence to optimize walk path, visualize travel path for next few stops
Section 4 paragraph 2–know your delivery area, deliver to addresses on the corner from cross streets, use preferred alternate delivery points for time sensitive deliveries
Section 4 paragraph 3–remember 5 stops in advance.
Section5 paragraph 3- face labels for selection and move stops forward to the selection area.
Section 5 paragraph 5- visualize upcoming stops
Section 5 paragraph 6- minimize package handling
Section 5 paragraph 9- utilize 30-60” selection area, deliver sections in the same sequenceas numbered, deliver shelf 1 first, deliver rear door stops to clear floor space, utilize 60” floor selection area.
Section 8 paragraph 2- plan ahead while walking to use optimum path to next stop, optimum storage for carry aid.
Section 15 paragraph 2 section the car to contain pickup volume, keep pickup package seperate from remaining deliveries.

If you follow the methods, you cant follow ORION.
If you follow ORION, you cant follow the methods.

The company needs to make a choice...
 

1989

Well-Known Member
Orion is TOOL alright.

Prior to orion I was using a skill saw to cut trough the load. Delivering all available stops from one parked position. Able to zip up the even side of a busy street then down the odd side. Unloading bulk stops early and cleaning up areas along the way.

Now Orion is like a jigsaw. I have to cut little puzzle pieces and fit them into the puzzle. Instead of delivering in a loop pattern, I am forced to deliver in a star pattern. If Orion worked, nobody could deliver a route in less miles than the solution.
 
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