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DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
why do they continue line up in support of right wing radicals hell bent on repealing and or defunding the very programs keeping from living in squalor ?
Defunding things that keep society from being in squalor you say.....

What kind of delusional person thinks we can have an ordered society without police....

A Democrat.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
You keep repeating this lie about Medicare.
I did not sign up for it, it automatically comes out of my paycheck. Stop lying.
But will you enroll in Medicare when you are eligible? You don't have to enroll if it is in conflict with your personal political ideology.
And it you chose not to enroll what means will you use to pay your future medical bills? Today, even basic elective surgery can easily run into 6 figure bills.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
But will you enroll in Medicare when you are eligible? You don't have to enroll if it is in conflict with your personal political ideology.
If someone robs your house, then later offers you your stuff back, will you refuse it because you're against theft?

We've been over this before.
Use your brain.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
If someone robs your house, then later offers you your stuff back, will you refuse it because you're against theft?

We've been over this before.
Use your brain.
Right it's a clear admission on your part that you will indeed enroll in Medicare and will be very grateful to have it when the diseases of ageing come calling.

Look, if you want to be a conservative then be a TRUE conservative and quit expecting Democrat sponsored social programs to come in and economically backstop you when you lack the levels of personal wealth required in order to meet the personal mandates true conservatism requires of you.
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
Right it's a clear admission on your part that you will indeed enroll in Medicare and will be very grateful to have it when the diseases of ageing come calling.

Look, if you want to be a conservative then be a TRUE conservative and quit expecting Democrat sponsored social programs to come in and economically backstop you when you lack the levels of personal wealth required in order to meet the personal mandates true conservatism requires of you.
If it were up to Dimocrats, they’d tax you at 100%, just so they could benevolently give you almost half of it back in benefits (as long as you voted for them).

As far as my Medicare benefits potentially exceeding what I’ve paid into the program, that’s no different than any for-profit insurance policy.
 

yadig

Well-Known Member
Just another Trump lie
You mean “fake news”
How long would that 140K have lasted if it wasn't for Medicare picking up the tab? According to a study conducted by U.S. News and the National Healthcare Association the average cost for 1 year in a skilled nursing facility is now $102.500. If your Pop has to go there the Lincoln ,the house will be gone along with that 140K pretty damn quick and Medicaid will have to take over. Another Democrat social program the GOP failed to scare enough people into believing that it would "destroy" the country.

People rail against the Dems not because they're personal ideology is in conflict with that of the Dems but rather because they are embarrassed to find themselves dependent on Democrat sponsored social programs .If they find themselves dependent on it through no fault of their own that's just fine. But, why do they continue line up in support of right wing radicals hell bent on repealing and or defunding the very programs keeping from living in squalor ?
of course we’re gonna use these programs, we’re paying for them! The biggest problem with socialism is eventually you have more people in the wagon than people pulling it. Do u understand that analogy?
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
Right it's a clear admission on your part that you will indeed enroll in Medicare and will be very grateful to have it when the diseases of ageing come calling.
You bring up Medicare constantly because your dead family member died bankrupt in squalor living on the government teet.

You need to get help with your personal issues and stop projecting them onto other people.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
If it were up to Dimocrats, they’d tax you at 100%, just so they could benevolently give you almost half of it back in benefits (as long as you voted for them).

As far as my Medicare benefits potentially exceeding what I’ve paid into the program, that’s no different than any for-profit insurance policy.
If you plan to use it then you're not a TRUE conservative. Why would any true conservative not reject Medicare and any other evil socialized program when it obviously conflicts with their personal political views?

If you want to be a conservative that's fine but be a true conservative. Lead by example. Live according to your own creed.
Not this thing "oh, I'm a conservative . I expect to be perceived as a conservative but I still need Democrat sponsored social programs to assist me me going forward because I was never able to accumulate enough personal wealth over the course of my lifetime to enable me to live in accordance with my own creed"..... And you want people to take you and your views seriously?
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
You mean “fake news”

of course we’re gonna use these programs, we’re paying for them! The biggest problem with socialism is eventually you have more people in the wagon than people pulling it. Do u understand that analogy?
The US population over the past decade only grew 1.7%. Furthermore the US birth rate is now the lowest since 1930. .
In addition according to the Center For Budget and Policy Priorities 44% of those Americans who receive some form of federal social program benefits work full time. The obvious reason is low wages being paid to essential workers.
 

yadig

Well-Known Member
The US population over the past decade only grew 1.7%. Furthermore the US birth rate is now the lowest since 1930. .
In addition according to the Center For Budget and Policy Priorities 44% of those Americans who receive some form of federal social program benefits work full time. The obvious reason is low wages being paid to essential workers.
Would you vote for a union? If I owned a business and could get by on paying low wages, why wouldn’t I? That’s why unions were formed in the past. There is always gonna be people to abuse the system. I wonder how many of that 44% shouldn’t be receiving benefits? You might be surprised.
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
If you plan to use it then you're not a TRUE conservative. Why would any true conservative not reject Medicare and any other evil socialized program when it obviously conflicts with their personal political views?

If you want to be a conservative that's fine but be a true conservative. Lead by example. Live according to your own creed.
Not this thing "oh, I'm a conservative . I expect to be perceived as a conservative but I still need Democrat sponsored social programs to assist me me going forward because I was never able to accumulate enough personal wealth over the course of my lifetime to enable me to live in accordance with my own creed"..... And you want people to take you and your views seriously?
By what authority do you get to define conservative?
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
There you go again cherry picking and exempting certain Democrat programs the ones that benefit you and your family from your wrath and hatred of Democrats railing against the programs that don't benefit you and your family.
Again and again Repugs rail against every Democrat sponsored social program ever proposed claiming that it will "destroy" the country . But, just as soon as the program can courtesy of extraordinary effort get passed scores of so called 'conservative" supporters are right there to sign up for it.

A prime example of it occurred earlier this year when not single GOP member of congress voted for an additional stimulus package but when it passed just barely a number of them were promoting the package to the constituents in an effort to make themselves look better. Including among them the GOP congressman in whose district I live who not only voted against the package but also voted to decertify the election.
Where did I cherry pick? You act like Republicans get special deals. Of course I support the programs that benefit everyone, within reason. But we have a bloated government now with deficit spending. Not sustainable. It's all theory to you but you don't seem to get it will cause an awful lot of pain for everyone when it collapses.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
How long would that 140K have lasted if it wasn't for Medicare picking up the tab? According to a study conducted by U.S. News and the National Healthcare Association the average cost for 1 year in a skilled nursing facility is now $102.500. If your Pop has to go there the Lincoln ,the house will be gone along with that 140K pretty damn quick and Medicaid will have to take over. Another Democrat social program the GOP failed to scare enough people into believing that it would "destroy" the country.

People rail against the Dems not because they're personal ideology is in conflict with that of the Dems but rather because they are embarrassed to find themselves dependent on Democrat sponsored social programs .If they find themselves dependent on it through no fault of their own that's just fine. But, why do they continue line up in support of right wing radicals hell bent on repealing and or defunding the very programs keeping from living in squalor ?
You also don't seem to get that all that government spending is a major contributing factor, if not the single biggest factor, in why we have such high medical prices these days. Name one government program that has been run efficiently and economically? People like you don't get it.
 

yadig

Well-Known Member
If you plan to use it then you're not a TRUE conservative. Why would any true conservative not reject Medicare and any other evil socialized program when it obviously conflicts with their personal political views?

If you want to be a conservative that's fine but be a true conservative. Lead by example. Live according to your own creed.
Not this thing "oh, I'm a conservative . I expect to be perceived as a conservative but I still need Democrat sponsored social programs to assist me me going forward because I was never able to accumulate enough personal wealth over the course of my lifetime to enable me to live in accordance with my own creed"..... And you want people to take you and your views seriously?
Did you not know I’ve been forced to pay into these social services? You’re damn right I’m gonna take all I can get. What about all these people coming over the border, Afghanistan, that hasn’t paid a damn dime and receive the goodies! Crickets….
 

yadig

Well-Known Member
If you plan to use it then you're not a TRUE conservative. Why would any true conservative not reject Medicare and any other evil socialized program when it obviously conflicts with their personal political views?

If you want to be a conservative that's fine but be a true conservative. Lead by example. Live according to your own creed.
Not this thing "oh, I'm a conservative . I expect to be perceived as a conservative but I still need Democrat sponsored social programs to assist me me going forward because I was never able to accumulate enough personal wealth over the course of my lifetime to enable me to live in accordance with my own creed"..... And you want people to take you and your views seriously?
Did you not know I’ve been forced to pay into these social services? You’re damn right I’m gonna take all I can get. What about all these people coming over the border, Afghanistan, that hasn’t paid a damn dime and receive the goodies! Crickets
 

59 Dano

I just want to make friends!
I believe that what he paid in over his lifetime would be a pittance compared to what knee joint replacement surgery costs today. especially when it's only 1.45%
Don't blame him because he's taking advantage of benefits that he was forced by law to pay for.
 
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