In the words of the man himself-Ron Carey

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by realbrown1, Apr 20, 2013.

  1. realbrown1

    realbrown1 Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.

    Last edited: Apr 20, 2013
  2. rudy5150

    rudy5150 Active Member

    What a great video!!!!!!! I encourage every brother and sister to watch
  3. realbrown1

    realbrown1 Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.

    This video nails some key points down.
    #1 In 1997 we won the strike because Carey went into negotiations with a strategy to mobilize the membership and keep the membership informed. Hoffa/hall started the 2013 negotiations with some balls, they now revert to their standard negotiating strategy of keeping the membership and the public in the dark. (BROWNOUT)

    #2 In 2007 and 2013 Hoffa/hall us good ol' boy strategy of trading away previous hard won contract victories for left-over crumbs. (All Teamster Pensions in union hands, more full-time jobs gone)

    #3 Carey praises TDU on how vital TDU was during the 1997 Contract Negotiations and Strike on RELAYING INFORMATION TO THE MEMBERSHIP. (An ability Hoffa and hall seem to not have)
  4. hyena

    hyena Well-Known Member

    That's the first time I ever saw or heard Ron Carrey. I think our current leadership needs to change. That was very well spoken!
  5. rudy5150

    rudy5150 Active Member

  6. realbrown1

    realbrown1 Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.

    This shows just how the rich are getting richer and the workers are getting screwed.
    But is Ed saying the solution is to what TAX THE RICH. Who benefits then? The politicians do.
    I blame both Republicans and Democrats. I read here that the top 15 richest congressperson that 8 are Democrats. Democrats are equally to blame.
    Maybe we need some middle-class/working-class people in congress and stop electing the super rich. They don't live in the same world working people do.
    Usually I don't like to divide people by class/race/ethnicity/religion because I really don't care, but the workers in this country are not getting a piece of the pie anymore, we getting crumbs. (UPS is an exeption for full-timers)
  7. Overpaid Union Thug

    Overpaid Union Thug Well-Known Member

    Still can't shake his shenanigans free from my mind. Not to mention that the 1997 strike could almost directly be linked to his selfish need to "get UPS" instead of a legitimate reason such as members not getting a fair contract....OH WAIT.....UPSers didn't even get to vote on the contract. Hmmm.......
  8. realbrown1

    realbrown1 Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.

    Cleared of all charges. What more do you want? A presidential pardon-not going to happen becuase he is already dead.
    And as for the strike, I don't know about you, but I am glad UPS didn't take over my pension and freeze it at 1997 levels like they did in the central states.
    Funny how different people see the same events -well- differently.
  9. Dracula

    Dracula Package Car is cake compared to this...

    What, you didn't get a ballot? Maybe you should've called your local. Everyone I knew, that wanted to vote, voted.
  10. stink219

    stink219 Well-Known Member

    We did vote, then we went on the line. He might be talking about after we went out. We were forced back.
  11. Dracula

    Dracula Package Car is cake compared to this...

    Yeah, but in the end, we still voted yay or nay on the actual contract.
  12. InsideUPS

    InsideUPS Active Member

    Sigh........... Ron Carey...... will always be remembered as a rock solid leader in my book......his "prophecy" about the direction of our union is quickly becoming reality...

    as for our current leadership.....if negotiations soon don't improve....
    I will be thinking "Twiddle Dee and Twiddle Dum"..​