Indictment

Who thinks Trump will be indicted

  • Yes

    Votes: 3 12.5%
  • Maybe

    Votes: 1 4.2%
  • Definitely

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Probably Not

    Votes: 10 41.7%
  • Definitely Not

    Votes: 10 41.7%

  • Total voters
    24

vantexan

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Indiana Man Pleads Guilty to Carrying a Gun and Assaulting Law Enforcement Officers in Jan. 6 Capitol Breach

Better?
He lost the popular vote, he lost the Electoral vote, he lost his 60 court cases, and his attempted coup.
Biggest loser in the history of the United States
Gee, I guess one guy with a gun could take down the U.S. government. Happens all the time. And his 60 cases were never heard. Why is it that the swing states that made all the difference took so long to count votes? Why so many irregularities? If you don't want people questioning the validity of the vote then don't act in ways that make you question it.
 

vantexan

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What I'm implying is while in office they brokered soft landings with foreign countries they had no access to while private citizens. The hedge funds did not exist until leaving office. They worked these countries for personal gain. Peace agreements, weapons sales and financial protections all come with a price tag. Not specific to any party or time period, just the cost of doing business.
Name anyone with any clout in Washington who isn't using their influence to make money after leaving office? Look at Pentagon generals. They hated Trump. They usually land very high paying defense contractor lobbying jobs after retiring. Influencing how the military spends its money, especially in wartime. But Trump wasn't playing ball. As for Mnuchin and Kushner they both had real world experience in investment banking before serving under Trump. No surprise they used their contacts to get funding. Very real possibility that Trump will get reelected and they'd have some influence.
 

Up In Smoke

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Name anyone with any clout in Washington who isn't using their influence to make money after leaving office? Look at Pentagon generals. They hated Trump. They usually land very high paying defense contractor lobbying jobs after retiring. Influencing how the military spends its money, especially in wartime. But Trump wasn't playing ball. As for Mnuchin and Kushner they both had real world experience in investment banking before serving under Trump. No surprise they used their contacts to get funding. Very real possibility that Trump will get reelected and they'd have some influence.
I don't disagree with any of your statement. Washington is a pipeline to untold wealth. M & K were smart to take sales pitch half way around the world. The fewer eyes the better.
 

Turdferguson

Just a turd
Gee, I guess one guy with a gun could take down the U.S. government. Happens all the time. And his 60 cases were never heard. Why is it that the swing states that made all the difference took so long to count votes? Why so many irregularities? If you don't want people questioning the validity of the vote then don't act in ways that make you question it.
Question it all you want, but in court is where it counts, they lost every single case they brought up, and lost.
And just like the bunch overly sensitive snowflakes that you are, you tried to bully your way to victory and lost that also.
Go off to the corner and suck your thumb like the big bunch of cry babies that you are
 

fishtm2001

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A group of conservatives, including prominent lawyers and retired federal judges, issued a 72-page report on Thursday categorically rebutting each of the claims made in court by former President Donald Trump and his supporters over the 2020 election results.

The report, “LOST, NOT STOLEN: The Conservative Case that Trump Lost and Biden Won the 2020 Presidential Election,” looked at more than 60 court cases Trump and his supporters filed and lost in six key battleground states. It reached the “unequivocal” conclusion that the former Republican president’s claims were unsupportable — which Trump’s own Department of Homeland Security as well as election officials nationwide debunked days after the 2020 election.

“There is absolutely no evidence of fraud in the 2020 Presidential Election on the magnitude necessary to shift the result in any state, let alone the nation as a whole. In fact, there was no fraud that changed the outcome in even a single precinct,” the report says.

The report is signed by retired federal appeals court judges Thomas B. Griffith, J. Michael Luttig and Michael W. McConnell, former Solicitor General Theodore B. Olson, former US Sens. John Danforth and Gordon H. Smith, longtime Republican election lawyer Benjamin L. Ginsberg and veteran Republican congressional chief of staff David Hoppe.
 

vantexan

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Question it all you want, but in court is where it counts, they lost every single case they brought up, and lost.
And just like the bunch overly sensitive snowflakes that you are, you tried to bully your way to victory and lost that also.
Go off to the corner and suck your thumb like the big bunch of cry babies that you are
Tell me again how many of those cases were actually heard by a judge and jury instead of being tossed out without adjudication?
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
A group of conservatives, including prominent lawyers and retired federal judges, issued a 72-page report on Thursday categorically rebutting each of the claims made in court by former President Donald Trump and his supporters over the 2020 election results.

The report, “LOST, NOT STOLEN: The Conservative Case that Trump Lost and Biden Won the 2020 Presidential Election,” looked at more than 60 court cases Trump and his supporters filed and lost in six key battleground states. It reached the “unequivocal” conclusion that the former Republican president’s claims were unsupportable — which Trump’s own Department of Homeland Security as well as election officials nationwide debunked days after the 2020 election.

“There is absolutely no evidence of fraud in the 2020 Presidential Election on the magnitude necessary to shift the result in any state, let alone the nation as a whole. In fact, there was no fraud that changed the outcome in even a single precinct,” the report says.

The report is signed by retired federal appeals court judges Thomas B. Griffith, J. Michael Luttig and Michael W. McConnell, former Solicitor General Theodore B. Olson, former US Sens. John Danforth and Gordon H. Smith, longtime Republican election lawyer Benjamin L. Ginsberg and veteran Republican congressional chief of staff David Hoppe.
And yet using the exact same technology that the J6 panel used to verify location of rioters, it was demonstrated in the documentary "2000 Mules" that Democratic operatives in 5 different districts repeatedly dropped off stacks of ballots in dropboxes an average of 38 times each. Verified by both cellphone pinging and video surveillance. Just because a bunch of old farts said no fraud doesn't make it so. Anyone who thinks Joe Biden, who hardly filled up a classroom of supporters while Trump filled up stadiums, got 80 million+ votes ought to have their head examined.
 

fishtm2001

Well-Known Member
Tell me again how many of those cases were actually heard by a judge and jury instead of being tossed out without adjudication?
"Trump and his allies lost nearly all the more than 60 cases they brought challenging the 2020 election results, the report noted. Twenty were dismissed before a hearing on the merits, 14 were dropped by Trump and his supporters, and 30 included a hearing on the merits, it found."
 

fishtm2001

Well-Known Member
And yet using the exact same technology that the J6 panel used to verify location of rioters, it was demonstrated in the documentary "2000 Mules" that Democratic operatives in 5 different districts repeatedly dropped off stacks of ballots in dropboxes an average of 38 times each. Verified by both cellphone pinging and video surveillance. Just because a bunch of old farts said no fraud doesn't make it so. Anyone who thinks Joe Biden, who hardly filled up a classroom of supporters while Trump filled up stadiums, got 80 million+ votes ought to have their head examined.
D’Souza did not respond to multiple requests for comment from Reuters. Well that's odd.
 

vantexan

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"Trump and his allies lost nearly all the more than 60 cases they brought challenging the 2020 election results, the report noted. Twenty were dismissed before a hearing on the merits, 14 were dropped by Trump and his supporters, and 30 included a hearing on the merits, it found."
They concluded the cases didn't have merit and tossed them. Including the case brought by the State of Texas and others pointing out that by not following the State of Pennsylvania's own constitution they harmed the elections of other states. The Supreme Court refused to touch it. The courts simply refused to get involved.
 

fishtm2001

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