BakerMayfield2018
Fight the power.
You know what extra work is. It is work after your 8 hour dispatch.
Is normal OT awarded by seniority
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BakerMayfield2018
Fight the power.
Early am’s is usually for part timers trying to make ends meet. You wanna be a dick and steal part timers work file a grievance.
Brown287
Im not the Mail Man!
Not here.....all full timers. I mean hell I guess that means my building has about 30 “dicks” running around.
Jackburton
Gone Fish'n
Southern Supplement
Article 46 section 3.b
(B) When additional employees are necessary to complete the Employer's operations on any shift or within any classification, the supervisor shall exhaust all established local practices to first use bargaining unit employees including where applicable, double shifting, early call-in, and overtime.
BakerMayfield2018
Fight the power.
Yes.
Jackburton
Gone Fish'n
Brown287
Im not the Mail Man!
Got that right!That’s why we use last names here, lots ofs, dicks, mother
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
In the Central Region, section 16-Extra Work has always been defined as
work that is "unplanned or unscheduled".... hence the term "extra"
The issue mainly comes up dealing with work inside the buildings.
I can't say I've every heard of it being grieved in pkg car, in your type of situation.
If they decided to put in "extra" runs on a Saturday, that would be applicable.
The best thing to do would be talk to management about it, and ask for the work.
You can always grieve it, at least to bring the issue to the table.
But, you can't exercise your seniority to "bump" someone out of their assigned work.
-Bug-
Maple Grove MN Driver
Cocaine Mang!
If there is no OT what is the Union going to do?
Create it out of thin air?
The Union should educate the Membership on how to be Financially Responsible.
Maple Grove MN Driver
Cocaine Mang!
PT workers don't matter.
All that matters is FT Drivers.
If PTers can't make ends meet maybe they should be more financially responsible
35years
Gravy route
In the Central Region, section 16-Extra Work has always been defined as
work that is "unplanned or unscheduled".... hence the term "extra"
So having a lower seniority driver (or in the future a 22.4) come take stops at the end of the day could be considered "unplanned" work since in the morning the plan was for it to be assigned to the original, senior driver.
But, you can't exercise your seniority to "bump" someone out of their assigned work.
My "assigned" work when I bid this route 15 years ago was twice the geographical area that it is now. ORION makes route boundaries fluid.
Has the definition of "assigned work" been interpreted as daily planned dispatch or long term assignment by geographical area? If the former, then management could assign me an area 20 miles from my bid area each day. So geographical area must be a criteria.
Add to that management dispatching that area of what used to be my route to a less senior driver the next route over. He puts in 1-2 hours more than me each day.
These issues are going to be coming up after peak. The BAs and stewards need to work out what our seniority means in these situations before 22.4 becomes a reality.
work that is "unplanned or unscheduled".... hence the term "extra"
So having a lower seniority driver (or in the future a 22.4) come take stops at the end of the day could be considered "unplanned" work since in the morning the plan was for it to be assigned to the original, senior driver.
But, you can't exercise your seniority to "bump" someone out of their assigned work.
My "assigned" work when I bid this route 15 years ago was twice the geographical area that it is now. ORION makes route boundaries fluid.
Has the definition of "assigned work" been interpreted as daily planned dispatch or long term assignment by geographical area? If the former, then management could assign me an area 20 miles from my bid area each day. So geographical area must be a criteria.
Add to that management dispatching that area of what used to be my route to a less senior driver the next route over. He puts in 1-2 hours more than me each day.
These issues are going to be coming up after peak. The BAs and stewards need to work out what our seniority means in these situations before 22.4 becomes a reality.
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BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
burrheadd
KING Of GIFS
Brown287
Im not the Mail Man!
This is the best advice for
Well at least you’re consistent. Lol
Brown287
Im not the Mail Man!
Perhaps but this thread is in regards to “extra work” and who’s entitled through seniority and if so how is it determined and enforced.
35years
Gravy route
Not my intention...
My comments are in color, yours are plain black.
I posted from my phone and didn't know how to multi-quote without collapsing the entire post.
I am looking for advice, not trying to make a point.
Mooseknuckle
Well-Known Member
We don't all live in Kansas. Due to things well beyond our control the cost of living has skyrocketed in many parts of the world. Not everyone needing more OT is that way because of their spending. If I remember correctly Brown287 lives in San Francisco, One of the most expensive places on earth.
Maple Grove MN Driver
Cocaine Mang!
Explain how UPS should care?
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
I told you what the answer is.
Don't expect the BA's and Stewards, to go into some sort negotiation with the
company to clarify things for a handful of people.
If you feel your seniority is being violated.... file a grievance.
