Islam

[BrownFlush]

Exactly
You keep posting with zero substance, dodging anything relevant.
Sad.

Tell him what he wins , Johnny ! Thats what your wife said !

Morality is more than possible without God, it is entirely independent of him. That means atheists are not only more than capable of leading moral lives, they may even be able to lead more moral lives than religious believers who confuse divine law and punishment with right and wrong

Thanks for letting me know where you landed.

People who need a threat of punishment to be moral, can never be truly moral.

What do you know about a threat of punishment?

I assume that was meant to be funny.

I have met many people who were Secular Humanist or Atheist who were more moral than most of the Bible Thumpers I know.

What standard of morality are you appealing to when you make that judgement? And where and how did you get that standard ?

 

[Old Man Jingles]

What standard of morality are you appealing to when you make that judgement? And where and how did you get that standard ?

I only do work when people pay me and I require cash up front!

 

[bottomups]

atheists can never be moral.

I guess atheists can be no more moral than priests, you know those men of the Lord, who go on to molest young children. I don't think that's a moral thing to do. I don't need a God to tell me that's wrong.

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

What do you know about a threat of punishment?

I know more about Christianity than anyone needs to.

 

[BrownFlush]

I know more about Christianity than anyone needs to.

Evidently not.

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

Evidently not.

How did you come to that brilliant conclusion?

You're about as convincing as an Alaskan Jehovahs witness after 8 hours of walking door to door in a Florida summer.

 

[bottomups]

Mr. Flaherty, a Catholic priest convicted of assaulting young boys. Still financially supported by the church. Yeah, that's a moral organization which happens to believe in a god.

 

[newfie]

I assume that was meant to be funny.

I have met many people who were Secular Humanist or Atheist who were more moral than most of the Bible Thumpers I know.

it would be an interesting argument that could be had here. Atheist by their nature reject the teachings of the bible, the bible is the foundation for morality.

so I would argue that you're either not moral or your not a complete atheist.

 

[newfie]

View attachment 208121
Mr. Flaherty, a Catholic priest convicted of assaulting young boys. Still financially supported by the church. Yeah, that's a moral organization which happens to believe in a god.

you libs always trot out the Christian example of this sickness while embracing the muslims who engage in the same

 

[newfie]

I guess atheists can be no more moral than priests, you know those men of the Lord, who go on to molest young children. I don't think that's a moral thing to do. I don't need a God to tell me that's wrong.

because atheists have determined they will use the moral teachings of god but take the credit for thinking it up theirselves?

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

Atheist by their nature reject the teachings of the bible, the bible is the foundation for morality.

How many concubines does it take to screw a lightbulb into a child rapist's bumhole?

 

[bottomups]

it would be an interesting argument that could be had here. Atheist by their nature reject the teachings of the bible, the bible is the foundation for morality.

so I would argue that you're either not moral or your not a complete atheist.

So you're of the belief that there was no morality of the human species before the bible?
I could argue that the bible was written around the moral beliefs that evolved beforehand.

 

[newfie]

So you're of the belief that there was no morality of the human species before the bible?
I could argue that the bible was written around the moral beliefs that evolved beforehand.

the teachings of god preceeded the writing of the dead sea scrolls. what is the foundation for atheistic morality. where is your bible with its own teachings separate and different from those in the bible?

 

[Old Man Jingles]

it would be an interesting argument that could be had here. Atheist by their nature reject the teachings of the bible, the bible is the foundation for morality.

so I would argue that you're either not moral or your not a complete atheist.

The Bible is the foundation of morality (Jweish Law) for the Western world ... I think.
The concept of morality is in every culture in the world so it was not from the Bible.

You messin' with me?

 

[BrownFlush]

I guess atheists can be no more moral than priests, you know those men of the Lord, who go on to molest young children. I don't think that's a moral thing to do. I don't need a God to tell me that's wrong.

You don't think? What if another society thought it was right? What or who told you it was wrong? How did you come to that conclusion ?

How did you come to that brilliant conclusion?

Many Christians have come to reason ( because they just don't like the idea ) that eternal punishment does not exist. Many are opting for annihilation .
And why not, in todays world , whatever one believes , it for sure will happen, right?

 

[Jones]

Hammurabi's Code was written long before the the bible, and long before before jesus was invented.

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

Many Christians have come to reason ( because they just don't like the idea ) that eternal punishment does not exist. Many are opting for annihilation .

Most people think
Great God will come from the sky
Take away everything
And make-a everybody feel high
But if you know what life is worth
You will look for yours on earth

 

[BrownFlush]

The Bible is the foundation of morality (Jweish Law) for the Western world ... I think.
The concept of morality is in every culture in the world so it was not from the Bible.

You messin' with me?

Concept?
Is there an absolute standard of morality ?

 

[BrownFlush]

Most people think
Great God will come from the sky
Take away everything
And make-a everybody feel high
But if you know what life is worth
You will look for yours on earth

You made words that rhyme. Pretty cool.

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

You made words that rhyme. Pretty cool.

Smh.
Amazing how small some people's worlds are.