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It will be fine

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I didn’t leave to prove a point or to make it on my own. I moved because my herion addict brother got out of rehab and was going to move in for a bit. I wasn’t going to live with him being jobless in the house all day while I’m at work.
Quit making excuses and make something of yourself. Mommy can’t pay the bills forever.
 

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
Rudy will now be forever known for coining the phrase, " Truth isn't Truth". I'm sorry but you couldn't make this sh at up if you tried. The man is losing his :censored2:ing mind. Lmfao!
I guess I've lost mine because when I was a child and young adult I thought like you.
Truth is a subjective observation by an individual.
I don't consider the truth very often because there are a multitude of truths for every consideration.

Facts are another case ... facts are facts!
I found the "alternative facts" of the Trump administration to be troubling but hilarious how the MSM reacted.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
Quit making excuses and make something of yourself. Mommy can’t pay the bills forever.

Honestly I’m hesitant to move back in. It’s like living on 666 serial killer lane for a man dating and having fun. Main reason I haven’t broken my lease, yet.

She is pushing this more than me, wants me back to help out. I used to pay my mother a thousand every month to help her out. It was food in her fridge and stress off her mind. I can “make it” on my own just fine. The real question is can I do even better moving back home for maybe a year, save an assload of money and re-examine my options for a different career while also allowing her to get out the hole she’s found herself in allowing my brother to use her financially, which has since stopped. I’d say I’d be back home for maybe 6 months, in that time she’ll have paid off her car and gotten out of the debt she’s found herself in and I’ll have saved more money than living on my own.
 

MAKAVELI

Well-Known Member
The truth is definitely subjective.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"

But that does not mean "Truth isn't Truth".
 

BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
People know right from wrong without gods.
All you've done is attack common sense.

So fill me in smart guy, where do you think morality comes from?

You keep bringing gods.
If what you have presented is a common sense answer to how we know what right and wrong is, you're gonna have to come up with better material. I've never heard such horse :censored2:.

Fill you in? I just keep waitin' for your next enlightened discussion.

Hey.. Have you noticed that @bottomups ( whom the question was originally asked, " How do you know what is moral?" #276 ) has avoided this like the plague?
 

DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
You keep bringing gods.
If what you have presented is a common sense answer to how we know what right and wrong is, you're gonna have to come up with better material. I've never heard such horse :censored2:.
Make a list, check it twice, gonna find out who's naughty or nice.

I'm glad you have your god, seems like you need him.
 

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
The truth is definitely subjective.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"

But that does not mean "Truth isn't Truth".
The fact that these are truths )and not facts) is why there are probably 300 million different opinions on what that phrase means.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"

Equal - is the eyes of the law is what that means to me.
Certain Unalienable Rights - Means pretty much whatever Tom, Dick and Hairy thinks it means.
Pursuit of Happiness - Obviously not the normal definition of Happiness. I take it to mean the opportunity for each citizen to pursue their own path and livelihood.
 

bottomups

Bad Moon Risen'
You keep bringing gods.
If what you have presented is a common sense answer to how we know what right and wrong is, you're gonna have to come up with better material. I've never heard such horse :censored2:.

Fill you in? I just keep waitin' for your next enlightened discussion.

Hey.. Have you noticed that @bottomups ( whom the question was originally asked, " How do you know what is moral?" #276 ) has avoided this like the plague?

Do yourself a favor and read a little bit about Secular Humanism.

"A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hopes of reward after death."

— Albert Einstein, "Religion and Science," New York Times Magazine, 1930
 

BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
I noticed I asked you the same question and you dodged it and deflected to someone who isn't a part of the discussion at all.

Gaaaa.. The King of the Dodge has spoken again! BU was THE one in the discussion.
I know where your standard of morality comes from. The god of human reason. "Man is the measure of all things." -- Protagorus -Greek Philosopher


Make a list, check it twice, gonna find out who's naughty or nice.

I'm glad you have your god, seems like you need him.
For what?

Do yourself a favor and read a little bit about Secular Humanism.

"A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hopes of reward after death."

— Albert Einstein, "Religion and Science," New York Times Magazine, 1930

1933 Humanist Manifesto 1 ... 1980 A Secular Humanist Declaration

Is this where you have landed ?
 

bottomups

Bad Moon Risen'
Gaaaa.. The King of the Dodge has spoken again! BU was THE one in the discussion.
I know where your standard of morality comes from. The god of human reason. "Man is the measure of all things." -- Protagorus -Greek Philosopher



For what?



1933 Humanist Manifesto 1 ... 1980 A Secular Humanist Declaration

Is this where you have landed ?
Morality is more than possible without God, it is entirely independent of him. That means atheists are not only more than capable of leading moral lives, they may even be able to lead more moral lives than religious believers who confuse divine law and punishment with right and wrong
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
Do yourself a favor and read a little bit about Secular Humanism.

"A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hopes of reward after death."

— Albert Einstein, "Religion and Science," New York Times Magazine, 1930

its always interesting when we take someone who is known for one thing and quote him for something else. I suppose there is a transference of expertise for Albert that applies to any subject he offers an opinion on?

kind of like bruce springsteen telling me who to vote for?
 
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