Bubblehead
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I'm not running for anything.
July 10th contract teleforum call
- Thread starter brown_trousers
- Start date
I'm not running for anything.
I would think you would need to read the new contract language when it is out. After this if you don't understand I will try to help you.
Sean never did the job and he worked in the movies for a short period of time. Sure using your logic you are detracting from your brother. You do see this don't you? And before you try and say this is not the case, save it because it is reality.
All 23,500 or so 22.3 jobs created since 1997 will be protected and shall not count toward any other classifications. The 22.4 positions will be filled with only part-time or full-time UPSers. They do not count as far as the 6 to 1 ratio. The only way an off the street hire can get one of these jobs is if it is not bid meaning nobody wanted it.
It is a different classification.
Article 40 jobs can has as much as a 2 hour gap. There are existing 22.3 jobs with an hour and 1.5 hour gap. If the work is available you can combat these gaps.
DELACROIX
In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
Driving is Driving..They would all be road trained.
Would anybody with seniority really want that kind of job? Great opportunity for a low wage part timer I give you that, but most driving and inside workers are content with what they are doing. That shift work, weekend requirement and flexible start times sure doesn't seems appealing. Too many unknowns.
I thought the same thing when they introduces the 22.3 positions, until I watched package car and feeder drivers jump at the chance to take a pay cut and work odd hours, with little to no pressure.
UnconTROLLed
perfection
If it's something like 4am to 1pm, or 12-9pm, sign me up. I'm top rate driver or 22.3, but just saying, those aren't bad hours at all.
cachmeifucan
Well-Known Member
Well if it involves driving that won't help people waiting on more 22.3 jobs because they have already had the chance to go driving so why would they go driving after waiting 15 years at less pay it's for the new guys no 22.3 will transfer people will stay in the classification they are in who changes that only package to feeder around here. So you think package car guys will take the jobs or feeder nobody but the new guys will be in the jobs eventually
brown_trousers
Well-Known Member
Are they making any changes to article 40 this contract?
Yet I would take him over Dennis Taylor any day
You will have to wait and see.
Thats because Sean is what you know. He is what you have always seen. Sean is great and all but he has never worked a minute at UPS. He was brought up through the good old boys club and thats that. Denis worked at UPS. He has the resume. I'm not saying Sean isn't a good Teamster, but you made a comment about guys not working at UPS in over 25 years and Sean has 27 years in with the Teamsters and never even a millisecond at UPS.
My mistake. I didn’t recognize Denis’s name on the VP list. Ohhhh that’s right. Maybe all the arbitration’s?
I'm not even remotely following you here.
Cuz your boy (who has no idea was led to the slaughter) is done. You can back him but Hoffa is putting someone else up for the top spot. The funny thing about the Teamsters is, just when you think YOU’RE THE GUY, YOU AINT THE GUY!
542thruNthru
Well-Known Member
Ignore him. He isn't concerned about the future. He's only concerned that he's transferred some many times he's considered a new hire in UPS's eyes. He wants this contract to pass no matter what because any hang ups may mean his job.
He's already made that clear from the beginning with his "I'll have to find a new job then." If we strike.
First, you don't have to yell at me. Second he ain't my boy. I ain't got no boys and I ain't nobody boy. The Teamsters is a dirty game. Third, Denis isn't looking to be the number two guy or anything of the sort. He is an IBT Trustee which is compensated the same as Sean is as an IBT Vice President. I believe Denis will retire sometime in the next couple years, so he has nothing to lose. Your guy is still a very young man. He has a lot to gain and lose. For all we know he could end up kicked out of the Teamsters for life in the next three years. You just never know. Remember, stay classy.
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Frankie's Friend
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So did the upstateny scab.
How long did Hoffa work for ups or for any Teamster bargaining unit company?
