Labor Day

airbusfxr

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The origin of Labor Day goes back to the 1890's when Pres Glover Cleveland sent troops to end the Pullman Railcar strike. He sent 12k troops to put people back to 7 day 12 hr shifts making the Pullman Rail cars. Cleveland lost his big for reelection and thus we have a paid day off. Even though some work groups at UPS havent had a contract in 4 years, due to another Law, the RLA of 1929, someday maybe this law will be striken from the books. Pilots and mechanics and railroad workers cannot strike due to this ancient law. We are even asked by UPS Grade 20s to send a letter to make FDX use this law to cheat their employees. Instead of trying to stick FDX, UPS should lobby to get rid of the RLA of 1929 so all work groups will be on a fair and level field. The UPS Pilots spent years without a contract and after almost 5 years they received a fair deal. Now the mechanics are looking at 5 years without a contract and we are only asking for pennies but UPS wants us to pay for Grade 20s to have fat pockets. I hope everyone has a great Labor Day, and maybe UPS will see that it is time to reward the mechanics with a long overdue contract.
 

dannyboy

From the promised LAND
So what you are saying is that UPS is using the very same RLA that they want FedEx to stop using? OR should I say misusing? Say it aint so.......

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scratch

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I decided not to labor any today. I hope everybody else enjoys this nice long weekend.

Interesting note that Labor Day came about after a Pullman Railcar strike. "UPS Brown" was originally called "Pullman Brown".
 

moreluck

golden ticket member
My flags outline my entire yard (CA. postage stamp size). I don't labor much any other day, so why should today be any different.

Tomorrow is our anniversary (42 yrs.) and we'll be deciding where to have dinner over our coffee this afternoon.

Life is good.:happy2:
 

Jones

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Got up (relatively) early and got my workout in, now I'm safely ensconced in my recliner where I plan to spend the majority of the day.
 

tieguy

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The origin of Labor Day goes back to the 1890's when Pres Glover Cleveland sent troops to end the Pullman Railcar strike. He sent 12k troops to put people back to 7 day 12 hr shifts making the Pullman Rail cars. Cleveland lost his big for reelection and thus we have a paid day off. Even though some work groups at UPS havent had a contract in 4 years, due to another Law, the RLA of 1929, someday maybe this law will be striken from the books. Pilots and mechanics and railroad workers cannot strike due to this ancient law. We are even asked by UPS Grade 20s to send a letter to make FDX use this law to cheat their employees. Instead of trying to stick FDX, UPS should lobby to get rid of the RLA of 1929 so all work groups will be on a fair and level field. The UPS Pilots spent years without a contract and after almost 5 years they received a fair deal. Now the mechanics are looking at 5 years without a contract and we are only asking for pennies but UPS wants us to pay for Grade 20s to have fat pockets. I hope everyone has a great Labor Day, and maybe UPS will see that it is time to reward the mechanics with a long overdue contract.

most of this is your opinion and thats fine. One correction though it is possible to strike under the RLA. However mediation is required first.

Happy labor day everyone thanks for all your hard work.
 

slantnosechevy

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I decided not to labor any today. I hope everybody else enjoys this nice long weekend.

Interesting note that Labor Day came about after a Pullman Railcar strike. "UPS Brown" was originally called "Pullman Brown".

Yes it was called "Pullman Brown" by Casey and others outside Pullman. The official name of the paint color Pullman used was Conestoga Brown.
 
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anonymous6

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Labor unions are responsible for ending the 7 day 12 hr workwork. We now have weekends off bc of them. ( generally speaking )

They also stopped child labor , safety improvements among dozens of other benefits most Americans take for granted.

i have to laugh when i go on craigslist and people are bashing unions and union workers. they should go to China to see working conditions there.
 

moreluck

golden ticket member
In his Labor Day speech, B.O. said, "Wealth was valued over work". How does he think people get wealthy??? :knockedout:

Hard Work !!!!!
 

klein

Für Meno :)
Ofcourse, your historybooks probably won't show the Canadian Connection :(



Labour Day has been celebrated on the first Monday in September in Canada since the 1880s. The origins of Labour Day in Canada can be traced back to April14, 1872 when a parade was staged in support of the Toronto Typographical Union's strike for a 58-hour work-week. The Toronto Trades Assembly (TTA) called its 27 unions to demonstrate in support of the Typographical Union who had been on strike since March 25. George Brown, Canadian politician and editor of the Toronto Globe hit back at his striking employees, pressing police to charge the Typographical Union with "conspiracy."
Although the laws criminalizing union activity were outdated and had already been abolished in Great Britain, they were still on books in Canada and police arrested 24 leaders of the Typographical Union. Labour leaders decided to call another similar demonstration on September 3 to protest the arrests.
Seven unions marched in Ottawa, prompting a promise by Canadian Prime Minister Sir John A. Macdonald to repeal the "barbarous" anti-union laws.Parliament passed the trade Union Act on June 14 the following year, and soon all unions were demanding a 54-hour work-week.

The Toronto Trades and Labour Council (successor to the TTA) held similar celebrations every spring. American Peter J. McGuire, co-founder of the American Federation of Labor, was asked to speak at a labour festival in Toronto, Canada on July 22, 1882. Returning to the United States, McGuire and the Knights of Labor organized a similar parade based on the Canadian event on September 5, 1882 in New York City, USA. On July 23, 1894, Canadian Prime Minister John Thompson and his government made Labour Day, to be held in September, an official holiday. In the United States, the New York parade became an annual event that year, and in 1894 was adopted by American president Grover Cleveland to compete with International Workers' Day (May Day).
While Labour Day parades and picnics are organized by unions, many Canadians today simply regard Labour Day as the Monday of the last long weekend of summer. Non-union celebrations include picnics, fireworks displays, water activities, and public art events. Since the new school year generally starts right after Labour Day, families with school-age children take it as the last chance to travel before the end of summer.
An old custom prohibits the wearing of white after Labour Day. The explanations for this tradition range from the fact that white clothes are worse protection against cold weather in the winter to the fact that the rule was intended as a status symbol for new members of the middle class in the late 19th century and early 20th century.


If you read all this, then you know why we North Americans celebrate Labor Day in September, not like the rest of the world on May 1st.

Besides, reading that, fighting for a 58hr work-week. No wonder they barely lived to thier 40's. (In a much harsher work environment, as well ).
 
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over9five

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I labored on my F150 that blew a U-joint while I was at the beach. My daughter uses it. We've had AAA for years, this was the first time we've used it for towing.
 

stevetheupsguy

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I labored on my F150 that blew a U-joint while I was at the beach. My daughter uses it. We've had AAA for years, this was the first time we've used it for towing.
Did you take pictures?

I woke up today, cleaned up a snowglobe my daughter broke. Brown Cafe'd a bit, napped for 2 hrs and just finished an early dinner. Now I'm thinking about what I shouldn't do next, LOL. The pool is calling my name, so maybe I'll go float for a couple of hours. Ahhhh, I love holidays.:happy2:
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
Happy Labor Day everyone, I hope you are all enjoying a three day weekend with friends or family or just relaxing

Thank You Devil ... that is exactly what I am doing.
Played golf, ate lunch, played tennis for two hours, came home and jumped in the pool for a while and now I'm going out for a motorcycle ride. When I get back, I've got a bottle of Cabernet with my name on it. Don't get better'n that.

Hope you're having a quiet one.

Tomorrow is our anniversary (42 yrs.) and we'll be deciding where to have dinner over our coffee this afternoon.

Life is good.:happy2:

Congrats More ... 42 years is quite an accomplishment.
 

JETDOC

Well-Known Member
The origin of Labor Day goes back to the 1890's when Pres Glover Cleveland sent troops to end the Pullman Railcar strike. He sent 12k troops to put people back to 7 day 12 hr shifts making the Pullman Rail cars. Cleveland lost his big for reelection and thus we have a paid day off. Even though some work groups at UPS havent had a contract in 4 years, due to another Law, the RLA of 1929, someday maybe this law will be striken from the books. Pilots and mechanics and railroad workers cannot strike due to this ancient law. We are even asked by UPS Grade 20s to send a letter to make FDX use this law to cheat their employees. Instead of trying to stick FDX, UPS should lobby to get rid of the RLA of 1929 so all work groups will be on a fair and level field. The UPS Pilots spent years without a contract and after almost 5 years they received a fair deal. Now the mechanics are looking at 5 years without a contract and we are only asking for pennies but UPS wants us to pay for Grade 20s to have fat pockets. I hope everyone has a great Labor Day, and maybe UPS will see that it is time to reward the mechanics with a long overdue contract.


And how does that explain our current layoff situation ?
 
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pickup

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Ofcourse, your historybooks probably won't show the Canadian Connection :(



Labour Day has been celebrated on the first Monday in September in Canada since the 1880s. The origins of Labour Day in Canada can be traced back to April14, 1872 when a parade was staged in support of the Toronto Typographical Union's strike for a 58-hour work-week. The Toronto Trades Assembly (TTA) called its 27 unions to demonstrate in support of the Typographical Union who had been on strike since March 25. George Brown, Canadian politician and editor of the Toronto Globe hit back at his striking employees, pressing police to charge the Typographical Union with "conspiracy."
Although the laws criminalizing union activity were outdated and had already been abolished in Great Britain, they were still on books in Canada and police arrested 24 leaders of the Typographical Union. Labour leaders decided to call another similar demonstration on September 3 to protest the arrests.
Seven unions marched in Ottawa, prompting a promise by Canadian Prime Minister Sir John A. Macdonald to repeal the "barbarous" anti-union laws.Parliament passed the trade Union Act on June 14 the following year, and soon all unions were demanding a 54-hour work-week.

The Toronto Trades and Labour Council (successor to the TTA) held similar celebrations every spring. American Peter J. McGuire, co-founder of the American Federation of Labor, was asked to speak at a labour festival in Toronto, Canada on July 22, 1882. Returning to the United States, McGuire and the Knights of Labor organized a similar parade based on the Canadian event on September 5, 1882 in New York City, USA. On July 23, 1894, Canadian Prime Minister John Thompson and his government made Labour Day, to be held in September, an official holiday. In the United States, the New York parade became an annual event that year, and in 1894 was adopted by American president Grover Cleveland to compete with International Workers' Day (May Day).
While Labour Day parades and picnics are organized by unions, many Canadians today simply regard Labour Day as the Monday of the last long weekend of summer. Non-union celebrations include picnics, fireworks displays, water activities, and public art events. Since the new school year generally starts right after Labour Day, families with school-age children take it as the last chance to travel before the end of summer.
An old custom prohibits the wearing of white after Labour Day. The explanations for this tradition range from the fact that white clothes are worse protection against cold weather in the winter to the fact that the rule was intended as a status symbol for new members of the middle class in the late 19th century and early 20th century.


If you read all this, then you know why we North Americans celebrate Labor Day in September, not like the rest of the world on May 1st.

Besides, reading that, fighting for a 58hr work-week. No wonder they barely lived to thier 40's. (In a much harsher work environment, as well ).

totally different days, you spell yours "Labour day" , we spell ours "Labor day" .:wink2: We don't like u's (youse):happy-very:
 

dannyboy

From the promised LAND
And as a small business owner, the store was open, and after taking care of customers till around 12 or 12:30, went and laid stone. After all, deadlines are deadlines, rain or shine.

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