Let’s say the company wants to discipline for not drinking 3 gallons of water, what are you going to do ? (On Topic Only)

[542thruNthru]

I actually borrowed the concept of the question from a similar question posed to me in a different thread.

What part of the question makes no sense?

The fact that you started a thread about it means you though it had merit and that says enough all by its self.

 

[Integrity]

Of course everyone assumes ‘let’s make a deal’ is happening in the office or in the conference room. Most likely we’re arguing vehemently or deciding on lunch. They’re both pretty important.

Been in those rooms to many times to count.

You do have eat, though.

 

[Thebrownblob]

That and also that the steward can literally stop discipline just because he/she says they can't issue it per the contract.

That's what the grievance process is for.

People ask me all the time can they do this and write me up?

my reply is they could write you up for having your zipper undoned if they want to if you file the appropriate grievance it will get thrown out and they will look foolish. If you don’t then you’ll get whatever discipline they decided because you did not fight it.

 

[MyTripisCut]

That and also that the steward can literally stop discipline just because he/she says they can't issue it per the contract.

That's what the grievance process is for.

Failure to follow methods and procedures. Cool solutions is a procedure. Just saying.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Been in those rooms to many times to count.

You do have eat, though.

Can you tell when I’m trying to make light? I spent a week and a half excoriating you for your comment and now you post a thread on something “you” said. I was willing to let it go. Apparently you are not.

 

[MyTripisCut]

Can you tell when I’m trying to make light. I spent a week and a half excoriating you for your comment and now you post a thread on something “you” said. I was willing to let it go. Apparently you are not.

Let it go. I’m soooo tired of this.

 

[542thruNthru]

Failure to follow methods and procedures. Cool solutions is a procedure. Just saying.

Absolutely. That's why I follow them and find shade when ever possible for breaks and lunch. Even if it's out of my way.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Let it go. I’m soooo tired of this.

Agreed. tell @Integrity to leave it alone. The answer is crystal clear no Steward with his merit would allow the member to be disciplined. He would have them file the appropriate grievance and move on. It would go absolutely nowhere if you file.

 

[542thruNthru]

Agreed. tell @Integrity to leave it alone. The answer is crystal clear no Steward with his merit would allow the member to be disciplined. He would have them file the appropriate grievance and move on. It would go absolutely nowhere if you file.

That's the wording that confuses people.

He can't stop it. He can help the member fight it.

 

[542thruNthru]

Let it go. I’m soooo tired of this.

Come here big guy. I feel your pain.

 

[Thebrownblob]

That's the wording that confuses people.

He can't stop it. He can help the member fight it.

Understandable, by now allowing it, I mean to make sure they understand it doesn’t have merit and all they have to do is file. That’s all anyone can do. That’s what the grievance procedure is for. Although pounding fist and flipping tables over is rather fun..

 

[floridays]

I’m curious, do stewards discipline their members?

I guess if you had a union and a steward when you worked at fedex you would know the answer.

Just being my jerk self to say Hello.
Enjoy my homeland.

Disregard the rest of my blather.

 

[Thebrownblob]

I guess if you had a union and a steward when you worked at fedex you would know the answer.

Just being my jerk self to say Hello.
Enjoy my homeland.

Disregard the rest of my blather.

Maybe one day…

 

[542thruNthru]

Maybe one day…

Just do like we all do... just tell @Her to go back to the corner bar!

I guess if you had a union and a steward when you worked at fedex you would know the answer.

Just being my jerk self to say Hello.
Enjoy my homeland.

Disregard the rest of my blather.

 

[floridays]

Maybe one day…

unlikely

 

[Thebrownblob]

unlikely

Never say never brother.

 

[Integrity]

The following question was asked in another thread and I thought it might make for interesting discussion:

So the company deems one of your members did not drink 3 gallons of water and they initiated progressive discipline on him or her.


As a steward, how would you handle this attempt to discipline your member?

As a rank and file member how would you expect your shop steward to handle this?

If I were the shop steward first thing I would do upon hearing about this is to immediately set up a first step discipline hearing between myself, the management person who is attempting to discipline the member, and the member.

When steward I always advised the members to never have one on one discussions that could result in discipline without myself or the alternate present.

If I were not shop steward I would request my shop steward to be present prior to any discussion that might lead to discipline of any kind.

 

[Integrity]

Let it go. I’m soooo tired of this.

You can start a discussion of your liking at any time.

 

[Thebrownblob]

You can start a discussion of your liking at any time.

You Did you realize he rips people‘s eyebrows off didn’t you?

 

[Integrity]

The fact that you started a thread about it means you though it had merit and that says enough all by its self.

Not really.

Discipline of this nature really has no merit, it is laughable as you said.

Many UPS management are really so bad at their jobs and have so little integrity that most attempts at discipline lack “just cause”.