Local 25 Teamsters borderline criminal act?

[Boston25]

Haven't heard yet. The information I've seen is that these were mostly seasonal workers. I could be wrong on that. If they are not seasonal, and will continue to work, then it's not nearly as big a deal to me. But, again, if the union and the workers had an agreement on an installment plan, then the union should honor it. UPS's failure to honor their agreement with the union should have no impact on that. Besides, if UPS couldn't send $32 per week, why could they send hundreds all at once?

The issue wasn't the seasonal employees more than regular full time drivers and part timers never having a dime deducted.

 

[Boston25]

Were they told of the initiation?

Yes they all were.

 

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Or the Union wanted to get all of its money before the seasonals were laid off.

Oh now we are speaking for a local you have no knowledge of?

 

[Boston25]

Why take dues from seasonal employees at all? If they are kept on,then start taking dues. Don’t give me it is a Union shop,pay your dues crap. $11 an hour? C,mon...

I agree with this but it is a union job I personally feel myself if it's a closed shop you pay dues.

 

[1989]

Yeah I got that part. So friend the union right? Dummy. Onus is on them right?
Did they owe? Did they pay?

Did the union send them a monthly notice of being behind? $500 initiation fee for a part timer??? An initiation fee for a peak hire??? Ridiculous.

 

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The issue was having all of it taken at once. No one complained about paying it just how it was done.

A lot of people were weeks, months and some cases a year to 2 years behind.

The issue wasn't the seasonal employees more than regular full time drivers and part timers never having a dime deducted.

Seems like the employee would have zero issue if they never paid their bill.

 

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Did the union send them a monthly notice of being behind? $500 initiation fee for a part timer??? An initiation fee for a peak hire??? Ridiculous.

Did they fill out an application in HR where they had an orientation explaining the initiation and dues? I guarantee they did.

 

[Boston25]

Did the union send them a monthly notice of being behind? $500 initiation fee for a part timer??? An initiation fee for a peak hire??? Ridiculous.

No because the union didn't have them in the system because UPS wasn't turning over the applications.

 

[Boston25]

Did they fill out an application in HR where they had an orientation explaining the initiation and dues? I guarantee they did.

Yes they did.

 

[1989]

Did they fill out an application in HR where they had an orientation explaining the initiation and dues? I guarantee they did.

If I don’t pay my dues (even if ups doesn’t deduct them) I get a notice saying that I’m behind. Did the union break their contractural agreement about the deduction of dues?

 

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If I don’t pay my dues (even if ups doesn’t deduct them) I get a notice saying that I’m behind. Did the union break their contractural agreement about the deduction of dues?

Did they employee break theirs?

 

[Boston25]

Did they fill out an application in HR where they had an orientation explaining the initiation and dues? I guarantee they did.

We had a driver on comp who's been with the company for 20+ years and he didn't pay dues claiming he didn't know he had to be in good standing when on comp.

 

[1989]

No because the union didn't have them in the system because UPS wasn't turning over the applications.

We will have members/shop steward talk with those people

 

[Boston25]

If I don’t pay my dues (even if ups doesn’t deduct them) I get a notice saying that I’m behind. Did the union break their contractural agreement about the deduction of dues?

They couldn't send notices to members because they weren't in the dues deduction system because UPS wasn't turning over the applications.

 

[Boston25]

We will have members/shop steward talk with those people

We did I am one of them on 1 shift we had 15 employees who weren't seasonal employees never have dues taken out. When the hall was notified we had to have them fill out a new dues application and turn it in because UPS wasn't doing it.

 

[1989]

Did they employee break theirs?

A noob not realizing dues arent being deducted is hardly breaking their contractual obligation. The irs must send many notices before they can garnish wages, seize assets.

 

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We had a driver on comp who's been with the company for 20+ years and he didn't pay dues claiming he didn't know he had to be in good standing when on comp.

People need a scapegoat. It’s easier to just say it’s the unions fault.

 

[1989]

We did I am one of them on 1 shift we had 15 employees who weren't seasonal employees never have dues taken out. When the hall was notified we had to have them fill out a new dues application and turn it in because UPS wasn't doing it.

Then the employees still refused to pay?

 

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Then the employees still refused to pay?

Are they on check off?

 

[PT Car Washer]

Oh now we are speaking for a local you have no knowledge of?

The title of this thread is Local 25 and bad press. Yes they and the Teamsters in general are getting a lot of bad press. They should make an effort to fix it.