Local 25 Teamsters borderline criminal act?

[Boston25]

I call your post grandstanding and unintelligent. The seasonal worker is not a Teamster "brother" or "sister". As you colorfully try to embellish your pet slam against L25 you expose your ignorance. Were the extracted dues and fees too high? Maybe so, but the seasonal workers were not Teamsters and your defense that will include PVDs, who are scabbing our work seemingly all year round, is flat out stupidity. Anyone who agrees with your mentality sucks as a Teamster member and looks as childish as you do as you beat your dead and fake horse.
Stick up for your Teamster coworkers who ARE members not the scab PVDs you love so much.

He’s clearly not a teamster. I’ve called him out and asked him what local he belonged to and got no response.

 

[Boywondr]

He’s clearly not a teamster. I’ve called him out and asked him what local he belonged to and got no response.

He/she just does political posting imo.

 

[Boston25]

He/she just does political posting imo.

Yup I agree 100%

 

[purehavanne]

Hello,

My name is Austin and I just recently started working as a seasonal part-time package handler for a UPS facility in Massachusetts back in late October. When I was hired the company had made it clear to me on my first day that the job was seasonal, however, I would still need to begin paying an initiation fee to the Local 25 Teamsters Union. The initiation fee is $500.

On my first day I was provided with union paperwork which I read thoroughly and signed off on. In the paper work it stated that the initiation fee was $500, however the Teamsters recognized that a part-time employee is financially unable to pay $500 upfront, so the fee was broken down into 15 and a half weeks of 32$ payments.

To mine surprise, when I received my pay check today it stated $0. At first I thought it was a mistake, but then other employees started expressing similar concerns saying either the majority or the entirety of their paycheck had been drained, even their attendance bonuses. In my paystub it clearly stated that the entire amount of my paycheck was deducted for Union dues.

Now this is where it gets interesting. Upon everyone receiving their paychecks, a mob began to form in the middle of the building, all employees upset that their entire pay checks had been drained due two union dues. It also appeared that no one seemed to know why this had happened.

Upon speaking with management, they had assured us that they had no idea that this was going to happen and that for the last 20 years an event like this had never taken place before. They then went on to say that union dues had always been taken out in incremental amounts until completed, never has employees checks been completely drained.

Management then referred employees affected by this issue to their union stewards. Now the mob switched their attention from management to the stewards standing by. The stewards seemed to have no idea that this was going to happen and could offer no explanation. Some of them even tried to shift the blame from the Union to UPS and Human Resources. After the crowd calmed down, we were given the Union Halls number which I immediately picked up my phone and called.

A women picked up and assured me that she had been receiving calls all day regarding the issue and could do nothing for me but take my name and number and refer it to the business rep. She said that the contract states that after 31 days the union has the right to take any remaining dues in full. I then proceeded to tell her that in the paper work I signed states the fee would be broken down into payments. To that, she had no comment. I then asked her who in the Union made this decision and she said that she did not know, but she felt terrible for those employees.


Now, the reason why I am on Browncafe today is to see if anyone else from another Union did or has experienced a similar issue before? It seems to me almost criminal to take someone's entire weeks pay check at the beginning of the month when bills are due, just a few weeks before Christmas, especially when they are seasonal employees and will most likely never be able to take advantage of the benefits. For me, it wasn't as much of a big deal because I have a full-time job during the day and only picked up this job to help make some additional income for the holiday season and get in shape. I saw one employee crying because she had children at home to feed and was living paycheck to paycheck.

I also did a little research on Google and found an article from November 2018 stating that the Local 25 teamsters union was $5B in debt for their pension plan. Maybe there is a link between this event?

Please no trolls!

That’s what happens when you cheap out on HR. This was probably a screw up by someone in Indonesia.

 

[Yolo]

He’s clearly not a teamster. I’ve called him out and asked him what local he belonged to and got no response.

You return the money you stole yet?

Repeat after me

A fair day's pay for a fair days work.

Do you have an issue with that statement?

 

[Yolo]

I call your post grandstanding and unintelligent. The seasonal worker is not a Teamster "brother" or "sister". As you colorfully try to embellish your pet slam against L25 you expose your ignorance. Were the extracted dues and fees too high? Maybe so, but the seasonal workers were not Teamsters and your defense that will include PVDs, who are scabbing our work seemingly all year round, is flat out stupidity. Anyone who agrees with your mentality sucks as a Teamster member and looks as childish as you do as you beat your dead and fake horse.
Stick up for your Teamster coworkers who ARE members not the scab PVDs you love so much.

They literally paid thousands in union dues!!! Seasonal employees are not scabs. Your anti teamster stance is ing disgusting.

 

[Yolo]

Saying every single employee deserves a paycheck should not be a controversial stance. For the of christ. You guys are comic book evil at this point.

 

[Yolo]

Yup I agree 100%

You drained an entire paycheck from a brother of mine then had the audacity to refer to him as a, "freeloader."
YOU TOOK HIS ENTIRE PAYCHECK. HOW IS HE A FREELOADER? Back up your statement with facts. No homophobic rants. None of that accusing everyone of being management. Own up to your statement and either retract it or defend it.

 

[Boston25]

You drained an entire paycheck from a brother of mine then had the audacity to refer to him as a, "freeloader."
YOU TOOK HIS ENTIRE PAYCHECK. HOW IS HE A FREELOADER? Back up your statement with facts. No homophobic rants. None of that accusing everyone of being management. Own up to your statement and either retract it or defend it.

I won’t waste my time responding to you as you dig up a year old thread for attention. You are clearly only doing it for the politics. And I noticed you still never answered when I asked what local you are in?

 

[burrheadd]

He’s right I’d like to here you explain what happened myself

 

[Boston25]

He’s right I’d like to here you explain what happened myself

I’ll explain it again for the 100th time. It has already been answered over a year ago but here it goes. UPS had a lot of package drivers, feeders and part time employees who hadn’t paid dues for awhile some cases guys weren’t paying for up to 2 years because UPS couldn’t next day air the paperwork to the union hall. UPS put in the deductions and deducted the whole amount out of employees paychecks. Not every seasonal employee it happened to. And the whole situation was rectified and employees were made whole.

 

[Yolo]

What local I'm in is not relevant to this thread. Why are you referring to my union brothers and sisters as freeloaders?

 

[Yolo]

I’ll explain it again for the 100th time. It has already been answered over a year ago but here it goes. UPS had a lot of package drivers, feeders and part time employees who hadn’t paid dues for awhile some cases guys weren’t paying for up to 2 years because UPS couldn’t next day air the paperwork to the union hall. UPS put in the deductions and deducted the whole amount out of employees paychecks. Not every seasonal employee it happened to. And the whole situation was rectified and employees were made whole.

They had to file charges with the NLRB to get their paychecks from local 25. That is shameful.

 

[Yolo]

The seasonal employees agreed to paying $32/week towards the $500 initiation fee. Local 25 was worried they went get the full $500 so they decided to drain it all at once. And when they went to the union they were told tough and called freeloaders.

 

[burrheadd]

I’ll explain it again for the 100th time. It has already been answered over a year ago but here it goes. UPS had a lot of package drivers, feeders and part time employees who hadn’t paid dues for awhile some cases guys weren’t paying for up to 2 years because UPS couldn’t next day air the paperwork to the union hall. UPS put in the deductions and deducted the whole amount out of employees paychecks. Not every seasonal employee it happened to. And the whole situation was rectified and employees were made whole.

Not how I remember it but if it makes you feel better stick with your story

 

[Boston25]

Not how I remember it but if it makes you feel better stick with your story

Nothing about the story was good either way.

 

[nWo]

I'm sure glad my local doesn't behave like this. This thread is an embarrassment. Shame on 25.

 

[nWo]

You support freeloaders? It sucks that these employees lost most if not all of their checks but you don't think that a employee working in a union job should have to pay union dues? Regardless of what time of the year it is. Most people don't realize it but Chelmsford is a dumpster fire to say the least. Most of these employees if not all of these employees will still be there after peak.

Don't you ever refer to any of my union brothers and sisters as freeloaders.

 

[Wally]

When month after month, no dues were deducted, why didn't the members put that money aside?

 

[542thruNthru]

Don't you ever refer to any of my union brothers and sisters as freeloaders.

Are you a union brother or sister if you don't pay dues?