Manager harassing new drivers because of OT .

MassWineGuy

Well-Known Member
Don’t insult or ignore your manager.

Tell them that you truly think you’re doing your best, but there’s always room for improvement.

Request a check ride so they can see you doing your best (assuming that you are).

Are your gap times good?
 

olroadbeech

Happy Verified UPSer
This is something you better get used to. be Barney Fife and "nip it in the bud"

as others have mentioned the best response is ask for a ride along so they can show you how to improve . They may do that but in my case that usually shut them up.

there are plenty of ways to tell them to friend off without saying the words. When I told them to go on a ride along and they wouldn't I would tell them if they mention my OT again I would file a grievance. ... and then do it.

same as a friend off. Never show weakness.

they left me alone for the most part until a new manager came on board and then they would try. it was funny.
 

dezguy

Well-Known Member
This is something you better get used to. be Barney Fife and "nip it in the bud"

as others have mentioned the best response is ask for a ride along so they can show you how to improve . They may do that but in my case that usually shut them up.

there are plenty of ways to tell them to friend off without saying the words. When I told them to go on a ride along and they wouldn't I would tell them if they mention my OT again I would file a grievance. ... and then do it.

same as a friend off. Never show weakness.

they left me alone for the most part until a new manager came on board and then they would try. it was funny.
... Except we aren't unionized, therefore we cannot file a grievance...
 

59 Dano

I just want to make friends!
I agree no one should tell their manager friend off directly. But there is a way to do it indirectly as mentioned in other posts. Simply tell them I'm doing my best but need a check ride to verify my methods and onroad goals. That usually gets the a hole managers to back off.

I'd have them ride with the swing who doesn't have any problems with the route.
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
I'd have them ride with the swing who doesn't have any problems with the route.
Your ace-in-the-hole doesn’t always exist. And might expose the swing for policy violations you are unaware of.

And God forbid having the manager get off their ass and into a situation they’re totally unprepared for!
 

59 Dano

I just want to make friends!
Your ace-in-the-hole doesn’t always exist. And might expose the swing for policy violations you are unaware of.

And God forbid having the manager get off their ass and into a situation they’re totally unprepared for!

Manager's job is to give the employee the resources he needs to do the job properly. There's no better resource than an employee who has demonstrated competency at that job.
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
This is something you better get used to. be Barney Fife and "nip it in the bud"

as others have mentioned the best response is ask for a ride along so they can show you how to improve . They may do that but in my case that usually shut them up.

there are plenty of ways to tell them to friend off without saying the words. When I told them to go on a ride along and they wouldn't I would tell them if they mention my OT again I would file a grievance. ... and then do it.

same as a friend off. Never show weakness.

they left me alone for the most part until a new manager came on board and then they would try. it was funny.

A FedEx "grievance" is a GFT, which means Guaranteed Effed Treatment. It is a TOTAL joke, and only works if you've got some special card you can play. A completely stacked deck in favor of Management and HR, who work together with FedEx Legal in a trifecta of anti-employee games.

There are no Weingarten Rights at FedEx and no legitimate grievance process.

Barney Fife is a Senior Manager at the Mayberry Station BTW.
 
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MAKAVELI

Well-Known Member
I'd have them ride with the swing who doesn't have any problems with the route.
A good manager would ride with the courier to determine if they are using correct methods and the route's goals are correct. That is all that's needed. What a swing does on the same route is meaningless without that information.
 

CatMan

Well-Known Member
But a grievance filed with hr could maybe go into the manager’s personnel file. But maybe managers are exempt from that.
Oh yeah, some managers think they're above the law...they're not!...If you know that one of them is abusing their authority, write a letter to HR...they WILL do an investigation, belive me I've seen a few get the boot...and LMOA.Big time
 

59 Dano

I just want to make friends!
A good manager would ride with the courier to determine if they are using correct methods and the route's goals are correct. That is all that's needed. What a swing does on the same route is meaningless without that information.

It's not meaningless when you've ridden with the swing.
 

Tuned Out

Active Member
A good manager would ride with the courier to determine if they are using correct methods and the route's goals are correct. That is all that's needed. What a swing does on the same route is meaningless without that information.
VERY TRUE. Some will cut corners and not follow 'best practices'. The manager should be the one to determine if the EEs issue is BP, slow, or the route is wrong.. I know some swings will deliver a whole building in the PO cycle and add the p2 stops later.. Tricks of the trade. Maybe the goals were set with out a true check ride or the route changes etc.. Engineers should not be the answer either..
 
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