May be pulled into office for 'light day' lack of production

[Over 70]

Unless you're actively looking for trouble trying to "stick it to them", I'm not sure why someone wouldn't just avoid potential drama with a call/txt to put the ball in their court again.

 

[WorknLateHuh]

hour and a half? damn. i can see 20 min or even a half hour.

Yeah, they build the dispatches and they're responsible, but thats straight up taking advantage to the third degree.

If i was mgt i would be pissed

 

[dookie stain]

Probably should have messaged in to cover yourself...but at the same time they can know how many times you farted during your delivery at 123 main st and when you have two stops left and suddenly you get a message saying to go help...they know what's going on...there's quite a few routes here that are done with delivery and pickup around 330 and they sit around til five to take in people's air

 

[gman042]

So that justifies sitting for 1.5 hours w/o telling anyone?

I merely stated there is nothing that management can do to him. The unbalanced dispatch was created by management. Management should be the one liable.....not the driver.

 

[ManInBrown]

So our center had a light day last week. I was sent out with 4.5 hours of deliveries plus pickups at the end of the day. My dispatcher and sup knew I only had 50 stops (my regular is 100+), and didn't instruct me to help anyone. I was under the impression everyone in my group was as light. I ended up having 1.5 hours of downtime after my lunch break. The next day I'm talking to my neighboring driver and he said he ended up punching out at 7pm that day. I felt bad for him, knowing that I could have helped him out. My sup didn't mention anything to me about my downtime the following day, but later in the afternoon I got a message that I'm needed in the office the following morn. I'm assuming it's due to the lack of production. I'm going to reiterate what I've outlined here during the meeting. Does anyone have any helpful tips?

You have to inform them of the down time. You can't just sit out there for 90 minutes doing nothing. You have to message in. "I have nothing to do for 90 minutes. What do you want me to do"?

Then it's on them. Don't ever let them tell you take an extra lunch. They can't do that. They either have to find something for you to do, or cover your pickups and let you go home. If they do the latter tell them you want your 8.

As someone else said they know our every move, they knew you were sitting out there doing nothing. They have motives for why they don't message you and ask you to do something. They might want to see if you'll message them. If you're a bullseye driver now they have something to pull you in the office for.

 

[Faceplanted]

This has happened to me. I went to my first scheduled pu and sat there for an hour. Got told something the next day about having to call in..... blah blah something something

They knew I was underdispatched. Not my problem. I was at my next scheduled stop. No dicipline came from it as there is nothing they could have done.

Now if your done and you go to the store to shop or go to a friends house ect your could be "stealing time".

 

[union4life]

If the company wants to press the issue of "stealing time", they may certainly put you through the wringer and give a couple of days/weeks off while you get your Local hearing scheduled.

Article 37 states a fair days pay for a fair days work. And that the employee will perform their duties in a manner that best represents the Employer's interest.

I think they could make an argument that sitting around for 1.5 hours without communicating your situation would be grounds for disciplinary action.

Hope nothing happens to you.

 

[silenze]

If you want to sit around for 1.5 hours you have to move to feeders

 

[sailfish]

If that's all the more stops you have and you still have pickups later, why not just farm out your pace?

 

[ManInBrown]

Why

Why is that. It's not our jobs to find work. I've been personally told to leave the dispatches to management when I helped out my neighbor on my own.

No one is saying to take it upon yourself to go help a neighbor. I would never do that. But to sit out there for 90 minutes twiddling your thumbs without saying something is wrong. You have to make them aware, and put the ball in there court.

We all know they knew this driver was sitting out there doing nothing. They know when we fart. Not the point.

 

[Tiredbrown]

I had something similar happen to me years ago. I finished my deliveries and had letterbox pickups like 5 hours later. I called the center and they told me to hang tight. So I sat in my truck for 5 hours and never got a call from them...easiest money I ever made.

 

[ManInBrown]

I've had that happen. When I was a cover driver, They sent me letterboxes that were not ready until 2 hours after I was going to be done. Told them I was going to be sitting around waiting for them. They said sit around and wait. Fine by me

 

[Wally]

Exceptions can be made.

Not here. We have guys done at 5, and they are not allowed to help the guy who will be out until 9. So stupid.

 

[ups2000]

So what if they say hey driver can u get this 8 o'clock pick up and u know you will be there way early say 6.Should u tell them u will be sitting at the pick up for a hour or so doing nothing or not say anything BC they can see on the computer you will be getting there way to early and that's there problem not yours.

 

[Bubblehead]

Just tell them you were studying your DOK.

Then he fails when they quiz him, lol.

They can't mandate retention.

 

[Ghost in the Darkness]

You had to be told to call??

This is exactly why unions get a bad name.

They give out work phones at your center?

I doubt THATS the reason why unions get a bad name.

 

[rod]

Why

Why is that. It's not our jobs to find work. I've been personally told to leave the dispatches to management when I helped out my neighbor on my own.

I got a warning letter one time for "dispatching myself" when a friend took a few stops off me because I need off at a decent time to attend a family function. I would say screw em---they run the show--if the dispatch is screwed up so be it. And yes after getting a warning letter I would sit there twiddling my thumbs if I had time to kill. There was a short time I would take my hour break and then at least another hour or so because I was to be at a certain place at a certain time and I had no more deliveries to make. Then the next day they would load me up and I would be late to my destination. They never did get that combination delivery/shuttle route straightened out but they did like to error on the side of me being able to get to where I was suppose to be going on time. I spent a butt load of time reading newspapers at coffee shops because they didn't want me checking in early at the other center I was shuttling to.

 

[Coldworld]

If you want to sit around for 1.5 hours you have to move to feeders

Ain't that the truth....lol

 

[Coldworld]

If the company wants to press the issue of "stealing time", they may certainly put you through the wringer and give a couple of days/weeks off while you get your Local hearing scheduled.

Article 37 states a fair days pay for a fair days work. And that the employee will perform their duties in a manner that best represents the Employer's interest.

I think they could make an argument that sitting around for 1.5 hours without communicating your situation would be grounds for disciplinary action.

Hope nothing happens to you.

When are we, the rank and file, going to get language in the contract that states..."the company will make operation decisions that will keep employees safe and not put them in harms way??"....

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I merely stated there is nothing that management can do to him. The unbalanced dispatch was created by management. Management should be the one liable.....not the driver.

Yes and no.