May be pulled into office for 'light day' lack of production

[over9five]

Did we find out what happened in the meeting yet? Where u at, OP?

 

[ibleedbrown]

they probably gave him a 14 hour day today.

 

[barnyard]

For most of the areas that I cover, I already have the phone numbers of the guys that work the neighboring routes. If I am having that great a day, most of the time, I do not even call in, I call around and figure it out myself.

 

[CanOSup]

Only at UPS, will an employee sit without performing a job duty for 1.5 hours and somehow the rest of the workforce say the "Company" is in the wrong. Im not saying other parties did not play a role in this but c'mon. You know it is possible to perform a duty outside of your job classification. Ever heard of Car wash? Return to the center, fulfill your 8 hours. Don't steal it.

 

[bottomups]

If on any day I feel that I'm under dispatched I will adjust my pace accordingly. Will not attempt to contact my loop partners to request additional work. Have been strongly advised in the past to not self-dispatch with my coworkers. Might even look for a sales lead or two as I would have the time to provide a meaningful dialogue.

 

[union4life]

For most of the areas that I cover, I already have the phone numbers of the guys that work the neighboring routes. If I am having that great a day, most of the time, I do not even call in, I call around and figure it out myself.

I am sadden to say, we have had employees where I work disciplined for self-dispatching. I hope it doesn't happen to you or anyone else, but if it does, you can't say you weren't warned.

 

[ManInBrown]

Only at UPS, will an employee sit without performing a job duty for 1.5 hours and somehow the rest of the workforce say the "Company" is in the wrong. Im not saying other parties did not play a role in this but c'mon. You know it is possible to perform a duty outside of your job classification. Ever heard of Car wash? Return to the center, fulfill your 8 hours. Don't steal it.

You obviously didn't read every post in the thread. I said this driver did the wrong thing by not at least contacting them and making them aware. Even know they knew he was sitting out there doing nothing.

 

[Nothing by 1030 anymore]

Only at UPS, will an employee sit without performing a job duty for 1.5 hours and somehow the rest of the workforce say the "Company" is in the wrong. Im not saying other parties did not play a role in this but c'mon. You know it is possible to perform a duty outside of your job classification. Ever heard of Car wash? Return to the center, fulfill your 8 hours. Don't steal it.

Lmao. As much as we are over dispatched I'm sitting when u screw up dispatch. But thanks

 

[Nothing by 1030 anymore]

You obviously didn't read every post in the thread. I said this driver did the wrong thing by not at least contacting them and making them aware. Even know they knew he was sitting out there doing nothing.

Lol. Management already knew. There problem not drivers

 

[ManInBrown]

Lol. Management already knew. There problem not drivers

You have to put the ball in there court. A simple message stating "I'm sitting out here for 90 minutes with no work" That's it. Then it's on them.

Of course they knew. Not the point. The message takes all responsibility off of the driver.

 

[gman042]

Only at UPS, will an employee sit without performing a job duty for 1.5 hours and somehow the rest of the workforce say the "Company" is in the wrong. Im not saying other parties did not play a role in this but c'mon. You know it is possible to perform a duty outside of your job classification. Ever heard of Car wash? Return to the center, fulfill your 8 hours. Don't steal it.

What I said was driver should not be held liable for being under dispatched. We are always expected to work as directed. It is assumed that any dispatch given to a driver is work as management directed for that day.

 

[CanOSup]

Lol. Management already knew. There problem not drivers

Your right. This is a management problem. In the aspect that management now has to hold this driver accountable. It became the drivers problem the moment he began to steal. Sitting there doing nothing is stealing. No way around it.

I bring my car to the shop. They quote me 4 hours for repairs. They finish in 2 hours. Then they proceed to smoke and joke for the remaining 2 hours. Charge you for all 4. Is that wrong? I say yes.

 

[ManInBrown]

Your right. This is a management problem. In the aspect that management now has to hold this driver accountable. It became the drivers problem the moment he began to steal. Sitting there doing nothing is stealing. No way around it.

I bring my car to the shop. They quote me 4 hours for repairs. They finish in 2 hours. Then they proceed to smoke and joke for the remaining 2 hours. Charge you for all 4. Is that wrong? I say yes.

That's a terrible analogy. Again, I agree the driver did not do the right thing, but your analogy is not correct. The driver never told his sup before he left the building, that the dispatch he was given would take this many hours. Bad analogy

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

That's a terrible analogy. Again, I agree the driver did not do the right thing, but your analogy is not correct. The driver never told his sup before he left the building, that the dispatch he was given would take this many hours. Bad analogy

Actually, his analogy is spot on.

One of my first on-cars said that I should treat my time card as my bill to UPS for services rendered. In that regard, sitting for 1.5 hours would be stealing from my employer.

 

[gman042]

Okay
Tell me how this is different

Driver has 8 hr dispatch but finished in 9.5. Driver "stole" 1.5 hrs from company because he was over allowed. Happens all the time.
Versus
Driver has light dispatch but has 8 hr guarantee. He has to wait to do pickups.

So why is it acceptable to finish over allowed and it's all fine a good but having to wait to do pickup after a light dispatch is so taboo?

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

"I ended up light and have about an hour and a half before I start pickups and can help if needed."

 

[CanOSup]

Okay
Tell me how this is different

Driver has 8 hr dispatch but finished in 9.5. Driver "stole" 1.5 hrs from company because he was over allowed. Happens all the time.
Versus
Driver has light dispatch but has 8 hr guarantee. He has to wait to do pickups.

So why is it acceptable to finish over allowed and it's all fine a good but having to wait to do pickup after a light dispatch is so taboo?

Did the driver who worked 9.5 finish at 8 hours and sit and do LITERALLY nothing until 9.5? If he did it's the same thing. If he's slow and lacks proper skills but is actively delivering he's just ineffective not a thief.

 

[CanOSup]

Okay
Tell me how this is different

Driver has 8 hr dispatch but finished in 9.5. Driver "stole" 1.5 hrs from company because he was over allowed. Happens all the time.
Versus
Driver has light dispatch but has 8 hr guarantee. He has to wait to do pickups.

So why is it acceptable to finish over allowed and it's all fine a good but having to wait to do pickup after a light dispatch is so taboo?

Also, finishing 1.5 hours over allowed is never something the company will label as "all fine and good"

 

[union4life]

Okay
Tell me how this is different

Driver has 8 hr dispatch but finished in 9.5. Driver "stole" 1.5 hrs from company because he was over allowed. Happens all the time.
Versus
Driver has light dispatch but has 8 hr guarantee. He has to wait to do pickups.

So why is it acceptable to finish over allowed and it's all fine a good but having to wait to do pickup after a light dispatch is so taboo?

In my center, each driver receives a message asking what their ETA is? At this time the driver notifies the management team of the 1.5 hours of pending over allowance. The management team makes the decision on what to do next (usually nothing).

By not messaging the center to communicate the lack of work, the management team cannot make an informed decision.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I have the same ETA every day as I close out the UPS Store.

This does not account for an extended gap in my day.