Middle class morons

[diesel96]

You don't need to be a millionaire to buy property in Florida.
Condos go as less as 34K, 3 bedrooms homes for under 100K. Some even 75K.

You could even rent them out as vacation weeks/months, and even profit more.

MY plan : Sell my home, buy property in a cheaper province, and one south (2 for 1 exchange).
Thats my goal, anyways. See if it works and my health keeps up.

Not quite that cheap, unless you don't mind, retirement communitities, rural areas, or run down neighborhoods...

Educated people know a corporate tax is a consumer tax.

Originally Posted by diesel96
Such a bogus claim....if your lumping in the HealthCare Bill naysayers, the Tea-jhadist Party tends to lump in those on the left who feel it's not left enough. You will not find 40% democrats near a Tea-Party Rally, especially with pyscho twins Palin and Bachman imploding their false rhetoric...

I'm not sure what prompted you to post that, has nothing to do with my response to Brett's 40% claim of Tea-jhadist are Democrats....Being that HealthCare was a big issue with the Tea-Jhadist, the point was those on the left think the Bill is to weak, they preferred Gov't option or single payer.....But I'll address your "out of the blue" blurb....
Of course....Educated people know a corporate tax trickles down in the form of a consumer tax, much more faster than exccess profits/benes trickling down and passed onto the consumer. And educated people know a reduction in corporate taxes (like the reduction experiment over the last 10 years), fails to reduce consumer prices anyway. It's important to stress that even if corporations pass on income tax increases to the consumer, they would be very unlikely to do the reverse. The oligarchy setting is one in which price cutting is taboo, even when cost reductions tempt such behavior. It's par for the course for corperate protectionists not to mention that.

 

[wkmac]

Not quite that cheap, unless you don't mind, retirement communitities, rural areas, or run down neighborhoods...

Do you think Klein was looking at the mobile home parks or the high end Snowbird campers at the KOA's

 

[klein]

 

[klein]

No, I took a Hollywood, Florida real estate paper with me home. Ofcourse, didn't look at those homes or condos. But, they are listed.

 

[Lue C Fur]

Hey Klein...you got a chart for personal income tax rates for those same countries in 2012 or currently in 2010???

 

[moreluck]

Klein,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU_rqm7WPPI

 

[unionman]

Oh yeah, and the stimilus money they had to have immediately, if not sooner.......there's still 2/3 of it left. Pay down the deficit with it !! No, some fly or spider might need a study done on it. Let's fork over 4 million for that. Some shrimp needs a water study....another 8 million for that.

I actually agree with you Moreluck, I think they should start pulling in the bailout funds and start dealing with this debt. I'm a Dem but know that debt is bad for the country. My hope is that Obama can get the gop to work with the dems and come up with some solutions. I also do not like the public option in helthcare reform.

 

[klein]

Hey Klein...you got a chart for personal income tax rates for those same countries in 2012 or currently in 2010???

Yes, I do :
What are the income tax rates in Canada for 2010?
(keep in mind healthcare costs are included ) !!!

http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/ndvdls/fq/txrts-eng.html

 

[Lue C Fur]

Yes, I do :
What are the income tax rates in Canada for 2010?
(keep in mind healthcare costs are included ) !!!

http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/ndvdls/fq/txrts-eng.html

Hey Klein...The question was: Do you have a chart for personal income tax rates for those same countries in 2012 or currently in 2010???

Not Canada only...

 

[klein]

Hey Klein...The question was: Do you have a chart for personal income tax rates for those same countries in 2012 or currently in 2010???

Not Canada only...

No, don't have that one. But if you wanna be the lowest taxed nation in the world, with the highest debt in the world, then what is your point ?

 

[wkmac]

I actually agree with you Moreluck, I think they should start pulling in the bailout funds and start dealing with this debt. I'm a Dem but know that debt is bad for the country. My hope is that Obama can get the gop to work with the dems and come up with some solutions. I also do not like the public option in helthcare reform.

union,

I think almost everyone no matter political stripe is concerned and understands the problem with deficits and debt and give credit to the latter part of the 1990's when the topic of both seemed a united issue. We are where we are but what and how to go forward to address these isssues seems to be at an impass because we can't breach the politicalism that we all attach to it. No arguement that no matter who captains the ship, if that sucker sinks, we all swim together and you can bet the vast majority of us here if not all of us have not been signed up to the elite list of those given a life vest and seat on a life boat. You have to be highly connected to get one of those. The Wall Street bailout itself should have been a huge signal as to where most all of us stand in the eyes of Uncle Sam no matter which political power has the keys to the big house!

 

[unionman]

union,

I think almost everyone no matter political stripe is concerned and understands the problem with deficits and debt and give credit to the latter part of the 1990's when the topic of both seemed a united issue. We are where we are but what and how to go forward to address these isssues seems to be at an impass because we can't breach the politicalism that we all attach to it. No arguement that no matter who captains the ship, if that sucker sinks, we all swim together and you can bet the vast majority of us here if not all of us have not been signed up to the elite list of those given a life vest and seat on a life boat. You have to be highly connected to get one of those. The Wall Street bailout itself should have been a huge signal as to where most all of us stand in the eyes of Uncle Sam no matter which political power has the keys to the big house!

Are country has been here before, we just need to identify and corect it, no matter what it takes. I think as the economy improves the debt will come down with a healthy economy comes more tax revenue. The real problem is with social security and medicare, and how to pay for the large number of baby boomers that are about to start depending on it.
I don't agree with the wall street bailout but I do believe there was no other way. Even Bush knew that and got that going. This country, if not the world's economy would be in the toilet if we let those companies fail.

 

[tieguy]

Tie, you have no business sense whatever. Surprises me you are actually part of management. But, at UPS, thats possible.
How can Vegas strive, if the economy is hurting ?

Once you get manufacturing up and running again, like places such as Detroit, only then will Vegas benefit.

Klein I can't be there to explain everything your socialist education missed. Census trends show the migration to nevada and vegas. census trends continue to show the migration from northern areas to southern ones and from cold climates to warm climates.

the part about detroit somehow affecting vegas is just plain stupid and must have been likor influenced.


Perhaps you should be discusssing canadian trends with canadians? there should be a few left that have not crossed the border looking for life saving health care?

 

[tieguy]

I agree, Tie couldn't manage a taco bell and yet he is a manager at UPS. He probably has all his money in bonds because he thinks Obama will destroy the country just like the Tea Party maroon rednecks that pretend that there fight is against a high deficit and yet they said nothing during the Reagan or Bush years when the deficit was 64% of gdp. Obama inherited this mess and he just about has it cleaned up, now he can work on getting the debt down by taxing these rich morons.

I invested in bonds when the market crashed in 2008. while you were answering the phone calls from your broker demanding cash for your margin call I was riding it out without too many issues. I switched back to equities last may.
I'm glad to hear you're doing well riding the current market bounce. I'll pray you make enough to someday move out of that double wide and into a real house. In the meantime could you at least take some pride in your residence and clean up the empty red,white and blue beer cans off your porch?

 

[tieguy]

How do you figure Odrama has it about cleaned up when the deficit will be sky high with no solution of stopping spending ??? !!! Dream on

ups announced some positive news today based on the international market which is growing much faster then the US market.

 

[tieguy]

I do give him credit for saving the auto industry, and so should you. That's over 200.000 - 300.000 jobs with suppliers.

Do you really? the automotive bailout plan was forged in novemeber 2008 before Obama became president.

 

[tieguy]

you're trying to predict what these corporations will actually pay in 2012?

 

[unionman]

I invested in bonds when the market crashed in 2008. while you were answering the phone calls from your broker demanding cash for your margin call I was riding it out without too many issues. I switched back to equities last may.
I'm glad to hear you're doing well riding the current market bounce. I'll pray you make enough to someday move out of that double wide and into a real house. In the meantime could you at least take some pride in your residence and clean up the empty red,white and blue beer cans off your porch?

Good for you tieguy. Never thought you would be smart with money after getting a dose of your people skills. But believe it or not I wish you many good returns in the future and I know you feel the same towards me. As for the trailer, I never lived in one but I can tell you that I came from hard times as a kid and nothing pisses me off more than a spoon fed person that does nothing with what they have been given.

 

[klein]

Klein I can't be there to explain everything your socialist education missed. Census trends show the migration to nevada and vegas. census trends continue to show the migration from northern areas to southern ones and from cold climates to warm climates.

the part about detroit somehow affecting vegas is just plain stupid and must have been likor influenced.


Perhaps you should be discusssing canadian trends with canadians? there should be a few left that have not crossed the border looking for life saving health care?

Yeah Tie, I believe you, once pigs can fly.
Highest home forclosures in the entire continent.... but for you, it's boom time !

 

[tieguy]

Tie, you have no business sense whatever. Surprises me you are actually part of management. But, at UPS, thats possible.
How can Vegas strive, if the economy is hurting ?

Once you get manufacturing up and running again, like places such as Detroit, only then will Vegas benefit.

Good for you tieguy. I Never thought .

Unionman I fixed it for you.

P.S. your neighbors are calling and complaining. they would appreciate it if you would launder the piss and **** stains out of your underclothes before you hang them on the line to dry.