Need to get surgery and need 3 weeks off?

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by BruisedLegs, Apr 7, 2011.

  1. BruisedLegs

    BruisedLegs New Member

    so I'm planning on getting a septoplasty and fixing my deviated septum in my nose sometime in october. I have two weeks of vacation time but I need another two weeks to recover as this is major surgery. Will UPS allow me to take a month off ? how would this work?
  2. CRASH501

    CRASH501 New Member

    FMLA.....EMERGENCY MEDICAL LEAVE , if you can afford it dont even use your vacation time
  3. iamupser

    iamupser I'm Institutionized

    Shouldn't you be eligible for short term disability?
  4. JonFrum

    JonFrum Member

    Short-term Disability should be explained in your Health & Welfare Plan's Summary Plan Description (SPD) booklet that they sent you.

    FMLA is described in the Contract:

    Section 6. Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA)

    All employees who have worked for the Company for a minimum of twelve (12) months and worked at least 1250 hours during the past twelve (12) months are eligible for unpaid leave as set forth in the Family and Medical Leave Act of 1993.

    Additionally, any employee not covered above, that has worked for the Company for a minimum of thirty-six (36) months and accrued at least 625 paid hours during the past twelve (12) months is eligible for unpaid leave as set forth below, except that the amount of leave allowed will be computed at one half (1/2) of the time provided by the FMLA.

    Eligible employees are entitled up to a total of 12/6 weeks of unpaid leave during any twelve (12) month period for the following reasons:
    1. Birth of a child;
    2. Adoption, or placement for foster care;
    3. To care for a spouse, child, or parent of the employee due to a serious health condition;
    4. A serious health condition of the employee.

    The employee’s seniority rights shall continue as if the employee had not taken leave under this section, and the Employer will maintain health insurance coverage during the period of the leave.

    The Employer may require the employee to substitute accrued paid vacation or other paid leave for part of the 12/6 week leave period. The employee is required to provide the Employer with at least thirty (30) days advance notice before FMLA leave begins if the need for leave is foreseeable. If the leave is not foreseeable, the employee is required to give notice as soon as practicable. The Employer has the right to require medical certification of a need for leave under this Act. In addition, the Employer has the right to require a second (2nd) opinion at the Employer’s expense.

    The provisions of this section are in response to the Federal Act and shall not supersede any state or local law, which provides for greater employee rights.
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    Go here and learn all you can about FMLA . . .
  5. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Have you thought about taking the first two weeks off and then performing light duty for the second two weeks?
  6. UnsurePost

    UnsurePost making the unreadable unreadabler

    Huh? Light duty for a non-work related issue? I cannot even get light duty for a work related injury.

    Good luck!
  7. GayOfThrones

    GayOfThrones New Member

    UpstateNYer, Light Duty would not be offered seeing as how this is a non-work related injury but rather an elective surgery.
  8. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Somehow I missed that when I read it the first time. My bad.
  9. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    You never know. Stranger things have happened.
  10. UnsurePost

    UnsurePost making the unreadable unreadabler

    safety committee co-chair suckup may recieve light duty with no injury in exchange for ratting out Teamsters.
  11. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    Fat chance what company do you work for???????
  12. FracusBrown

    FracusBrown Ponies and Planes

    Septoplasty is not typically thought of as major surgery. Whether its considered major or minor, it's up to the Dr to decide how long you need to be off.

    Apply for FMLA. You will be required to use all but one week of paid time. Contrary to popular belief, being legitimately sick, ill, etc doesn't necessarily protect you from discipline and loss of seniority under law.

    Protect yourself. Short term disability is insurance to protect you against lost wages. FMLA is to protect you against discipline, loss of senority and job rights.
  13. hubrat

    hubrat Squeaky Wheel

    Same here, even with the doc recommending TAW.
  14. hypocrisy

    hypocrisy Banned

    Since the surgery isn't until October, I recommend not filing for FMLA until you are about a month or two out. Then you can schedule and use your vacation as you wish up until that time. Of course, in my experience H.R. couldn't even pay me my vacation pay during my FMLA leave, so I ended up having extra weeks in the bank to use later. Way to go H.R., thanks for the 19 weeks off work.
  15. hurricanegunner

    hurricanegunner UPSPoop

    I had two weeks off for sleep apnea surgery, including septoplasty. No issues at work. Just a note from the doctor who performed the surgery.
  16. Puck

    Puck Man,Myth...Legend....

    Your health is more important than UPS... have the surgery and inform them you have a doctors not of no work for 2 weeks... not much they can do.... you arent having plastic surgery.. you are having a surgery to better improve your quality of life as well as the length of your life... Tell them you WILL BE having surgery and will be OUT... too bad for them...
  17. brown_trousers

    brown_trousers Active Member

    First of all.... There are laws in place protecting your "privacy" in disclosing medical conditions/procedures. You do not need to tell them what your surgery is for, or whether its an elective surgery or not. They have no rights to that information. All you need is a doctors note saying you were medically unable to work for the last "x" amount of weeks and are now able to return to work.

    even if you take off 4 weeks to recover from this surgery, it will only count as 1 "sick day" occurence, so discipline should not be a problem, unless you are already on the verge of a warning letter/suspension/termination.

    If you have banked enough sick hours, you can just use those during your absence and save your vacation for another time you can actually enjoy. If you don't have enough sick hours and can't afford to go without the pay you could try and request those vacation weeks as well, but there is no guarantee there. Vacation eligibility is determined solely by seniority.
  18. CustomerConcern

    CustomerConcern New Member

    DO the Short term disability, at least you get paid 60%.
  19. 247spies

    247spies New Member

    Just do disability save your vacation time....
  20. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    There are some folks here for whom disability wouldn't pay the bills.

    This is where having supplemental health insurance comes in handy.