New RS1 Hi Value Call Tags

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by 10 point, Feb 21, 2015.

  1. 10 point

    10 point Well-Known Member

    Evidently we're not liable for not turning in a high value RS1 if we don't get the secondary receipt to turn in with the pkg(s) and we have no knowledge of the original "left tag" occurance?
  2. 10 point

    10 point Well-Known Member

    How can you derail a post that was just started?
    Please explain.
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  3. Lead Belly

    Lead Belly BANNED

    Maybe they mean ups derailed it's self.
  4. 10 point

    10 point Well-Known Member

    Maybe I'm too dense to grasp it.
    I wanted to hear how other centers were handling that issue. Maybe it's too new?
    I didn't see it addressed before now.
  5. Lead Belly

    Lead Belly BANNED

    I have run across one yet.
  6. 10 point

    10 point Well-Known Member

    It's brand new.
    They're a regular RS1 tag with another sheet attached that we have to leave with the customer and HOPE they read the fine printed instructions that says they have to return the second part (sheet) to the driver with the package.
    The second part has a receipt on the bottom (just like the call tag receipt) that the driver must have signed off by a supe upon returning to the building and follows the high value procedures for HV turn ins.
    I can see a huge problem looming with this deal when one driver leaves the tag on the delivery side and another one picks up there later or its given to a swing driver past the three day log the management keeps at the driver station to be signed off.
    Of course, the driver's probably going to be the insurance policy in this deal now.
  7. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    How can a high value be a RS 1? Makes zero sense?

    Did the ORION team come up with this?
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  8. 10 point

    10 point Well-Known Member

    We had two of them in a week and management said they were not made aware of the new tags and procedures to control them.
  9. 10 point

    10 point Well-Known Member

    I asked the management to highlight the shippers instructions pertaining to their responsibility to return the high value certification sheet with the package but they said "No".
    It doesn't mean anything to them because it won't be $ taken out of their pocket if something goes wrong.
  10. superballs63

    superballs63 Well-Known Troll Troll

    Sure, cause there was no "This topic sucks" feedback.
  11. Lead Belly

    Lead Belly BANNED

  12. 10 point

    10 point Well-Known Member

    Thx for your help.
  13. 10 point

    10 point Well-Known Member

    Evidently, it was a high value from the shipper that the company has to control and protect from loss in transit...again. We better start inspecting them at the origin domicile.
    It reminds me of when RPS would deliver a pkg damaged and we'd get a call tag to pick it up and all of a sudden we had to pay the shipper for a damaged pkg.
  14. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

    UPS wouldn't pay a claim for a call tag package if they weren't the ones who originally delivered it. When we picked up those RPS packages it didn't matter what shape they were in.
  15. 10 point

    10 point Well-Known Member

    We were instructed NOT to pick up any RPS delivered pkgs for that very reason.

    That was in about 1995 and it was a directive passed down from at least the district level.
  16. hellfire

    hellfire no one considers UPS people."real" Teamsters.-BUG

    That's the normal level of help and feedback you will get here.
  17. Oak

    Oak Active Member

    Out of curiosity, what are the service level numbers in the tracking number? The two numbers after the shipper's number. IE: ground is 03. call tags are 26, etc.
  18. 10 point

    10 point Well-Known Member

    I'll look in the book tomorrow and let you know. You cld probably ask your mgmnt team...if they've seen one yet.
  19. 10 point

    10 point Well-Known Member

    Were you in an Apache? Just noticing your avatar and posting name.
  20. soberups

    soberups Pees in the brown Koolaid


    Article 10, section 1, paragraph 2 of the National Master Agreement:

    "No employee shall be disciplined or required to make reimbursement for lost or damaged parcels unless the Employer demonstrates that the employee, without justification or mitigation, violated pertinent established rules or policies, the observance of which would have prevented the loss or damage."

    In other words.... it is managements responsibility to establish some sort of procedure that will prevent the problem from occurring and if they fail to do so then they give up the right to make the driver pay for the loss.