1989
Well-Known Member
Don’t call a contract ratification an election. Because it is not an election.
New tdu article on halt to ratification
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DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
I edited the post, so you can untangle your panties and put the dictionary away now my guy.
Pizza
Joe Biden is The Big Guy
I elected to vote.
hellfire
no one considers UPS people."real" Teamsters.-BUG
Time to move on dude, let’s see how dedicated you are, First, get off your cross, second are you gonna opt out of the union to show them, Or, run for office?
Superteeth2478
Well-Known Member
Yeah, except they were able to use Article XII, Section 6 last time to amend the constitution and impose the supplementals in one go. No reason they can't do the same again.
hellfire
no one considers UPS people."real" Teamsters.-BUG
Yes, keep playing the victim
Mugarolla
Light 'em up!
They did not amend the Constitution last contract. They used an existing clause. The ruling under Section 6 was that the supplements were continuing to vote no trying to change language that was already voted for in the master. And that was the only reason the supplements were not passing. It dealt with Teamcare.
They did not amend the Constitution.
Amending the Constitution would not affect the current contract exactly as I have stated,
Applying Section 6 now, well, he could have before he applied Section 2 and imposed it. To apply Section 6 and change his mind now, isn't very likely.
LagunaBrown
Well-Known Member
Just to clarify OZ did not try to amend the 50% or 2/3 rules in the constitution when they attended the last few conventions.
LagunaBrown
Well-Known Member
Why didn’t Z or O try and fix the 2/3 or 50% language at the convention? They dropped the ball big time.
Mugarolla
Light 'em up!
Did they drop the ball?
Maybe they did not have an issue with that section in the Constitution.
I mean, if they did, one would think they would have tried to change it.
But they didn't. Nobody did.
trickpony1
Well-Known Member
They didn't change it because it would have required effort and any amended language that invoked majority rule could have led to a nasty 'ol strike and even more hassle.
Path of least resistance...
Dulce Bombón
I'm Legal Gringo! UPS Latina Heat! Haters ❤ me!
Lets hire the most prestige attorneys in the country. IBT sucks, to be honest.
clipperman
Well-Known Member
Dulce Bombón
I'm Legal Gringo! UPS Latina Heat! Haters ❤ me!
jagger john
Well-Known Member
wrong
Mr.Blonde
Only way outs inna box
Everyone pitches in? Im down like charles brown in a Christmas gown
browned out
Well-Known Member
No....Last time Hoffa/Hall lied about it being only the one teamcare issue. And the Teamcare language DID change.
It was also harassment language, progression and other issues. The pieces of garbage JUST decided to say it was one issue so They could force it thru and keep UPS happy. Stating it was 1 issue was BS Nothing could be further from the truth. Par for the course.
clipperman
Well-Known Member
Wouldn’t that be an odd situation,the union paying lawyers with members dues money to fight the members?
Mugarolla
Light 'em up!
OK
My point was that they did not amend the Constitution as @Superteeth2478 said they did.
They used an existing article in the Constitution, they did not amend it.
Superteeth2478
Well-Known Member
Article XII, Section 6: "The General Executive Board is empowered to amend, delete, or add to this Article if at any time it believes such action will be in the interests of the International Union or its subordinate bodies."
"Therefore, be it resolved that the General Executive Board exercise its authority to amend Article XII, Section 2(b) by adding the following paragraph in the middle of page 94: Notwithstanding the above, in the event the master agreement has been approved pursuant to the provisions of this Article, but the members covered by a supplement or rider do not approve the employer’s last, best and final offer, as determined by the master negotiating committee, and the supplemental or rider negotiating committee reports that the members have rejected the supplement or rider because of a provision in the ratified master agreement, then the master negotiating committee shall have the authority to declare the master agreement and all supplements and riders to be in effect."
https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/teamstersforademocraticunion/pages/8300/attachments/original/1434374401/Article%20XII%20resolution.pdf?1434374401
Article XII, Section 6 gives them the power to amend the constitution. The change was effective immediately in 2014. Again, no reason it can't be used again and be effective immediately, but this time in the interests of the voting membership.
