Older FT supes getting passed over for promotions by kids with only 3 years experience

Discussion in 'UPS Partners' started by cherryred, Dec 7, 2019.

  1. cherryred

    cherryred New Member

    I notice a lot of older supes with 10 to 20 yrs are getting passed over for manager promotions by kids that are only 3 years in. Is there a corporate mandate to skip over supes that have paid their dues over kids.
     
  2. UPS1907

    UPS1907 Member

    The old guys are smart enough NOT to take the job.

    Your only obligation in any lifetime is to be true to yourself.
    Richard Bach, Illusions
     
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  3. Old Man Jingles

    Old Man Jingles Rat out of a cage

    Just common sense.
    UPS is not going to invest in an employee that will be leaving in a few years.
    The future of the company is planning for the future.
     
  4. PT Crazy

    PT Crazy Active Member

    The young ones are the ones that will work in the hub moving packages.
     
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  5. PeakMode

    PeakMode Arrive Peak Leave

    Cause younger FT Sups are more willing to relocate than the older ones. Not a fan of it.
     
  6. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    If it takes you 20 years to be considered for a manager position then I'm pretty sure you're not even qualified for the job you're in right now.
     
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  7. Policy_Driven

    Policy_Driven New Member

    The problem with this post is the statement around “paid their dues”. That doesn’t earn you a promotion. Go out and earn it. Perhaps the company is looking for forward thinkers and not those that have been going through the motions and think they deserve the manager job because they’ve been with the company longer. Tenure doesn’t make you a better leader.
     
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  8. MrBates

    MrBates Active Member

    They don't consider number of years served for a promotion. They only consider how many boxes you manage to move given the chess pieces you have to work with.
     
  9. UnconTROLLed

    UnconTROLLed perfection

    I think the young kids are more impressionable therefore can be molded into something, and willing to do illegal/unethical things as they have less to lose in life. The older ones are probably less likely to risk their jobs and also less likely to be flexible. So given this, middle management wants people they can tame and that won't complain/rat out the unethical stuff
     
  10. textat3

    textat3 Member

    The kids:

    1) Have degrees
    2) Will do it for less $$
    3) Have way less vacation time
    4) Easier to program
    5) Great chance the kid will quit or be terminated within 5 years
    6) Repeat
     
  11. textat3

    textat3 Member

    One of the kids at out center lasted about 8 years...it was all good when he was a yes man with a useless college degree in Bible Studies....then he got married...it was still cool....then he had a few kids and real world problems+stress+responsibilities outside of UPS + stress and responsibilities of a job he was never qualified for in the first place= A FedEx Ground daily rate driver who just sold his house and moved the fam back into a condo.
     
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  12. Old Man Jingles

    Old Man Jingles Rat out of a cage

    Picked it up somewhere along the way ... UPS is pretty good at workforce planning and even better at management succession planning from Center Manger to the CEO.
     
  13. clean hairy

    clean hairy Well-Known Member

    Except for peak.
    It just pops up without any advance notice!
     
  14. hellfire

    hellfire no one considers UPS people."real" Teamsters.-BUG

    You can pay these kids much less. Everyone knows operations does no real decision making, they are not allowed.
     
  15. Old Man Jingles

    Old Man Jingles Rat out of a cage

    As opposed to you, most are at least capable.
     
  16. PASinterference

    PASinterference Yes, I know I'm working late.

    My on-road couldn't find the restroom without an Orion tablet. Totally dependent on it. No joke.
     
  17. Old Man Jingles

    Old Man Jingles Rat out of a cage

    Are you proposing that the ability to make good decisions requires the abilities of a passenger pigeon?
     
  18. What'dyabringmetoday???

    What'dyabringmetoday??? Well-Known Member

    Are you proposing that good decisions are made at UPS?
     
  19. Old Man Jingles

    Old Man Jingles Rat out of a cage

    Definitely ... 112 years in business.
    That is rare!
     
  20. clean hairy

    clean hairy Well-Known Member

    Even though he was standing right next to sign with the word "restroom" on it?