One Year After Charlottesville

[Operational needs]

I don’t think statues of enemies of a country are typical in public spaces. A statue is meant to celebrate a person. Lee lead an army against America, not exactly something we should be celebrating IMO.

Robert E. Lee was not an enemy of Richmond. He was a hero.

 

[BrownFlush]

Why was there a push to put them up?

There was no push.
Give honor to where honor is due, depends on what you are focused on.
Some see only the issue, whether they agree or disagree.
Some see the honor given because of the noble character, leadership qualities, etc.

A statue of MLK for me is the opposite of most of the reactions I'm seeing of the Confederate statues. I agree with the positions he held. But, never did like his character.

 

[It will be fine]

Robert E. Lee was not an enemy of Richmond. He was a hero.

He was a traitor to America. He fought against this country. We don’t have statues of Hitler in the middle of public parks so people can google him. We shouldn’t celebrate the nation’s enemies. It’s mind boggling that’s controversial.

 

[MAKAVELI]

He was a traitor to America. He fought against this country. We don’t have statues of Hitler in the middle of public parks so people can google him. We shouldn’t celebrate the nation’s enemies. It’s mind boggling that’s controversial.

I think we should have a statue of Lee Harvey Oswald in Dallas so people can Google him.

 

[Operational needs]

He was a traitor to America. He fought against this country. We don’t have statues of Hitler in the middle of public parks so people can google him. We shouldn’t celebrate the nation’s enemies. It’s mind boggling that’s controversial.

Our history had good and bad. We shouldn’t see only the good. Everyone can learn from the bad.

 

[MAKAVELI]

We should also have a statue of Timothy McVeigh in Oklahoma City so people can Google him.

 

[BrownFlush]

I think we should have a statue of Lee Harvey Oswald in Dallas so people can Google him.

We should also have a statue of Timothy McVeigh in Oklahoma City so people can Google him.

" its a fast ball right down the middle, he swings and misses again."

 

[vantexan]

There was no push.
Give honor to where honor is due, depends on what you are focused on.
Some see only the issue, whether they agree or disagree.
Some see the honor given because of the noble character, leadership qualities, etc.

A statue of MLK for me is the opposite of most of the reactions I'm seeing of the Confederate statues. I agree with the positions he held. But, never did like his character.

I grew up fascinated by the Confederacy. At 12 I could name all the major Confederate generals. Knew all the major battles. But did not understand the ramifications of just what they were fighting for. Now I know better. A lot of people died or got maimed over an evil system. Actually saw someone the other day post on Facebook what the various elements of the Confederate flag mean and how it represented a glorious Christian cause. No, it didn't. So much waste. I don't care to see statues torn down by mobs but if it brings healing to some then maybe it's for the best. People should hopefully learn from past mistakes and it seems we're more divided now than any time since the Civil War. Over economics, culture, religion. Just what will this country be in another 50 years? Still united?

 

[MAKAVELI]

" its a fast ball right down the middle, he swings and misses again."

Did you come up with that yourself or did you have to Google it?

 

[BrownFlush]

Did you come up with that yourself or did you have to Google it?

And he challenges my mental ability .

 

[BrownFlush]

Did you come up with that yourself or did you have to Google it?

Its time.. come on... " thats what your wife says'' come on.. you can do it.

 

[BrownFlush]

Did you come up with that yourself or did you have to Google it?

Such an easy read.

 

[MAKAVELI]

And he challenges my mental stability

Fixed it for you

 

[Box Ox]

He was a traitor to America. He fought against this country. We don’t have statues of Hitler in the middle of public parks so people can google him. We shouldn’t celebrate the nation’s enemies. It’s mind boggling that’s controversial.

As a southerner with lots of ancestors who fought for the Confederate cause, I agree. They were loyal to their brilliant commanders, fierce, and brave as hell. But they were still traitors who killed lots of guys who fought under the American flag and did not carry the American flag themselves.

They should not be celebrated. Had the the Confederacy won the war or fought to a stalemate, slavery probably would have continued for some time.

I don't care to see statues torn down by mobs but if it brings healing to some then maybe it's for the best.

I think Confederate monuments erected at the beginning of the Jim Crow era (1920s-ish) that were intended to intimidate minorities rather than celebrate positive Confederate/southern heritage should be removed. I was shocked the first time I saw a Confederate monument honoring a slave holder right in front of a courthouse that's supposed to treat minorities equally under the law.

 

[MAKAVELI]

Such an easy read.

Not as easy as your wife.

 

[BrownFlush]

Fixed it for you

Of course you did.
You can't deal with how its written originally.
You have to fix it so you can deal with it.

 

[BrownFlush]

Not as easy as your wife.

There ya go.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

There was no push..

Yes there was.

 

[BrownFlush]

Yes there was.

I'll say it different .
There was no push against it. Right or wrong.

 

[old levi's]

I was just in Richmond yesterday and was happy to see Robert E Lee still riding high. Not because I’m a fan of his but because I’m vehemently against the white washing of our history. If any of y’all are ever in Richmond you should drive through the neighborhood where his statue is. There are some amazing homes around it.
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" WHITE washing, really?"

Tear it down!!!