Only 5% of next car purchasers expect to buy all electric cars-Road and Track.

wilberforce15

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Margins unheard of in the automotive industry, on sales growth not seen since the Model T, and that's before the two most advanced auto factories in the world come online this year.

The rest of the world should give up.

For a decade, people said the competition is coming for Tesla. It's not coming. There is no competition. The factories are their product. Many can make an EV. Nobody can make them at scale except Tesla. The gap only gets wider every quarter.

Automotive gross margin is 32%.

Lololol
 

wilberforce15

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Babagounj

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While the Big Apple aspires to overhaul the city fleet to consist of entirely electric vehicles by 2040 and install “6,000 publicly accessible fast chargers by 2030,” less than one percent of the 1.9 million registered passenger vehicles in the city are zero-emissions, the New York Times reported. Moreover, only “3.4 percent of all new passenger vehicle sales in New York City last year” were either plug-in hybrids or fully electric, according to the outlet.

Bob Leonard – the president and CEO of Earthgarage.com, described as “the place to learn about Electric Vehicles and how to save money” on its website – told WPIX that he does not own an electric vehicle due to charging station concerns.

“It’s a sad thing,” he told the outlet. “But it’s a concern for a lot of buyers.”
 

wilberforce15

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While the Big Apple aspires to overhaul the city fleet to consist of entirely electric vehicles by 2040 and install “6,000 publicly accessible fast chargers by 2030,” less than one percent of the 1.9 million registered passenger vehicles in the city are zero-emissions, the New York Times reported. Moreover, only “3.4 percent of all new passenger vehicle sales in New York City last year” were either plug-in hybrids or fully electric, according to the outlet.

Bob Leonard – the president and CEO of Earthgarage.com, described as “the place to learn about Electric Vehicles and how to save money” on its website – told WPIX that he does not own an electric vehicle due to charging station concerns.

“It’s a sad thing,” he told the outlet. “But it’s a concern for a lot of buyers.”
So, NYC purchases more EVs than the nationwide average (3.4% of current sales vs. under 3% nationally).

Breitbart frames this as NYC not liking EVs.

They can count on their readers to be ignorant of the fact that their own numbers show NYC embracing EVs at about 25% faster clip than the rest of the country.

Yay "journalism."
 

bacha29

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Margins unheard of in the automotive industry, on sales growth not seen since the Model T, and that's before the two most advanced auto factories in the world come online this year.

The rest of the world should give up.

For a decade, people said the competition is coming for Tesla. It's not coming. There is no competition. The factories are their product. Many can make an EV. Nobody can make them at scale except Tesla. The gap only gets wider every quarter.

Automotive gross margin is 32%.

Lololol
And Honda has announced that it will pour 60 billion dollars into R&D to meets it's goal of having 30 different EV models on the market by 2030. The IC cars are expected to be around in limited numbers for a few years longer than projected but in time they'll simply be too expensive to make.
 

wilberforce15

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And Honda has announced that it will pour 60 billion dollars into R&D to meets it's goal of having 30 different EV models on the market by 2030. The IC cars are expected to be around in limited numbers for a few years longer than projected but in time they'll simply be too expensive to make.
That's a whole lot better than nothing, but it's really quite silly from my point of view. 30 models is absurd. EV manufacturing is an entirely different game, and they and the whole industry would be better off if they made 4 or 5 models well and in big volume.
 

vantexan

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No, they don't. That refers to new car sales, not percentage of cars on the road.

Biden wants EV's to be half of new car sales by 2030.

That would still leave them as much less than 20%, probably more like 15%, of cars on the road.

Totally different metrics.
To clarify, the Biden administration wants a 50% reduction in carbon emissions by 2030. They are pushing car manufacturers to up the average mileage of their fleet by then.
 

wilberforce15

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I said earlier that they're trying to make all cars electric by 2030. You said 50% of all new cars. Just to be clear they're trying to eliminate 50% of carbon emissions by 2030. Which is unlikely.

You were the only confused one, so if you are talking to yourself please clarify that in the post.
 

bacha29

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That's a whole lot better than nothing, but it's really quite silly from my point of view. 30 models is absurd. EV manufacturing is an entirely different game, and they and the whole industry would be better off if they made 4 or 5 models well and in big volume.
That's a good point. GM's problems were attributed to have too many brands and too many models within that brand. Half dozen good models with a limited array of options would do the job. The days of the showy "hey ,look at me " vehicles are coming to an end. Coming back to the basic task of getting from one place to another.
 
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