Only 5% of next car purchasers expect to buy all electric cars-Road and Track.

Ou812fu

Polishing toilet bowls since 1966.
I've been saying from the start of electric cars. It has always been a gimmick. If they would go after hydrogen. Hint hint. Hydrogen+ heat + oxygen = water.
 

vantexan

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False, outdated information.

Yes, electric vehicles "only" retained 75% of buyers, back in the stone age when electric vehicles weren't yet better at everything. So, from 2016 to 2019, only 75% of people stayed with electrics after buying them.

Your statistic is an advertisement for EVs.
How many gas car buyers eventually buy another gas car? Someone who buys an electric car is part of a very small percentage of the car buying public. That 25% of them return to gas cars is a major red flag to me.
 

vantexan

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2% of the market
Don't worry, Wilbur says everyone will want one soon. What he doesn't say is everyone may be forced to buy one soon if they want a car. Just saw where in the recent infrastructure bill that was passed there was a provision for kill switches to be installed in all new cars starting in 2026. So the government can stop your car when they deem it necessary. Might make older cars more valuable.
 

wilberforce15

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How many gas car buyers eventually buy another gas car? Someone who buys an electric car is part of a very small percentage of the car buying public. That 25% of them return to gas cars is a major red flag to me.
25% of them that bought ancient 2016 to 2019 cars return to gas.

That's an endorsement. Not a caution.

Outdated EVs still had a 75% retention rate.
 

wilberforce15

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And, as I've mentioned, it's not a demand issue. It's a production issue. The only question is how fast we can make them, not if people will buy them. Building new factories and supplying a new kind of vehicle isn't easy.

Production is the entire question. The overwhelming superiority of EVs for just about all light applications makes consumer demand effectively infinite.
 

vantexan

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25% of them that bought ancient 2016 to 2019 cars return to gas.

That's an endorsement. Not a caution.

Outdated EVs still had a 75% retention rate.
Not really. How many gas car buyers decide to try electric? Let's look at it a bit deeper. What's the one electric brand that's done reasonably well? Tesla. It's for the most part a high end car geared toward high end buyers. I don't see a lot of clamor for the Chevy Volt or Nissan Leaf. I'm betting a lot of that 25% who went back to ICE's tried those Chevys, etc. I'm 100% for any new technology that works well and is affordable. If they've about perfected electric cars in your opinion great. Doesn't mean much if I can't afford one. Personally I'm a big fan of electric cargo bikes. Goes plenty fast enough for me and if I live in the Southwest most of the time the weather won't bother me. I've owned 4 gas scooters over the years, three of them had 250 cc engines. Once rode one at 70 mph much of the way from San Bernardino, CA to Amarillo, TX. I nearly got killed a few times, no exaggeration. I'm not looking for a hot ride, fast times, all that. I want a reliable grocery getter. The cargo bike uses no gas, no insurance required, no license. If I ever come into some money I'll get a pickup that can haul a truck camper but my income is such I couldn't afford to keep it. You guys with good incomes dream of buying this or that but a retiree on limited income has to be practical. So anything high cost isn't in the picture. That's my criticism of electric cars. That and I would prefer a hybrid for extended travel.
 

wilberforce15

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Notice the thread title. 5% expect to buy all electric next.

EVs are currently 2% of the market.

Demand or expected demand is 2.5 times greater than current supply. This will continue.
 

UnionStrong

Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
Half of new car sales for light duty should be electric by 2030, sure. I'd call that a conservative guess.

As mentioned, the only question is if we can make them. No mandates or subsidies necessary. They're just that much better.

But commie dems will probably make those happen, too.
From 2% to 50% in 8 years… the price would have to come down or……gas powered would have to go up….like they’re doing now.
Hmmmmm, I smell a setup.
 
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