Only 5% of next car purchasers expect to buy all electric cars-Road and Track.

[vantexan]

Why do people keep bringing up inferior EVs or awful charging setups like VW? People are just allergic to Tesla or something.

1 charge. 45 minutes. And I make the 600 mile trip the same as you with your 45 minute stop.

Wouldn't you agree that if 25% went back to ICE's it's primarily due to bad experiences with those others?

 

[UnionStrong]

Why do people keep bringing up inferior EVs or awful charging setups like VW? People are just allergic to Tesla or something.

1 charge. 45 minutes. And I make the 600 mile trip the same as you with your 45 minute stop.

Maybe they should be able to swap out batteries, like propane tanks. I used to have to go to 1 place to fill my gas tank, now I swap it.

 

[wilberforce15]

Maybe they should be able to swap out batteries, like propane tanks. I used to have to go to 1 place to fill my gas tank, now I swap it.

NIO does that in China. It was considered for Tesla, but it only works with extreme population density. That's why it works well for NIO, but Tesla is much better off without it.

 

[UnionStrong]

Wouldn't you agree that if 25% went back to ICE's it's primarily due to bad experiences with those others?

No one can drive 300 miles unless your destination is a charging station or place that has one. So much for the scenic route

 

[UnionStrong]

NIO does that in China. It was considered for Tesla, but it only works with extreme population density. That's why it works well for NIO, but Tesla is much better off without it.

Still, I like that more than waiting.

 

[wilberforce15]

Still, I like that more than waiting.

It doesn't scale as a business model in a place without population density. The US doesn't have that density. It adds significantly to the cost of the car and the switching stations.

People in dense cities need it because they don't have home charging or can't adapt as easily to it. The vast majority of Americans would never need the ability because they can charge at home. It would be a wasted, very expensive feature.

I do a ton of road trips of 3 to 10 hours for long weekends, and I use public charging stations maybe 5 to 10 times per year. This really isn't a thing that people need or want.

I didn't even know how to use a charging station until I'd owned it for a year.

 

[vantexan]

No one can drive 300 miles unless your destination is a charging station or place that has one. So much for the scenic route

I agree 100%. Even if I could afford a Tesla I would never buy one for that reason.

 

[wilberforce15]

People do have fun compiling lists of places you cannot visit with a Tesla unless you have a hookup to a hookup: The Best Road Trips You Won't Want to Take in Your Tesla

 

[UnionStrong]

People do have fun compiling lists of places you cannot visit with a Tesla: The Best Road Trips You Won't Want to Take in Your Tesla

It’s day will come, I’m reasonably convinced, it’s just not now for most people

 

[vantexan]

NIO does that in China. It was considered for Tesla, but it only works with extreme population density. That's why it works well for NIO, but Tesla is much better off without it.

Just saw a German vehicle, looks a bit like a van, that uses 2 batteries for around town usage. If you want to take a trip you can rent up to 6 more batteries from the dealer. Of course Germany and the EU are relatively small.

 

[UnionStrong]

Just saw a German vehicle, looks a bit like a van, that uses 2 batteries for around town usage. If you want to take a trip you can rent up to 6 more batteries from the dealer. Of course Germany and the EU are relatively small.

That makes more sense

 

[oldngray]

Just saw a German vehicle, looks a bit like a van, that uses 2 batteries for around town usage. If you want to take a trip you can rent up to 6 more batteries from the dealer. Of course Germany and the EU are relatively small.

A lot of things that work in Europe are impractical in the US because things are so much more spread out

 

[wilberforce15]

It’s day will come, I’m reasonably convinced, it’s just not now for most people

Yep. That day for most people is when you actually have to justify spending more money to get a gas car. That'll be a few years.

 

[vantexan]

A lot of things that work in Europe are impractical in the US because things are so much more spread out

But they could work in regions like the Northeast. But overall wouldn't want the nuisance of long charging times compared to filling a gas tank. Now if we could get back to the days of train travel and rent an electric car once there I'd be for that.

 

[UnionStrong]

But they could work in regions like the Northeast. But overall wouldn't want the nuisance of long charging times compared to filling a gas tank. Now if we could get back to the days of train travel and rent an electric car once there I'd be for that.

Someone will come up with a way to charge faster or exchange batteries efficiently. If there’s a market and a way to make money, someone will find it. As long as the commies don’t prevail.

 

[wilberforce15]

But they could work in regions like the Northeast. But overall wouldn't want the nuisance of long charging times compared to filling a gas tank. Now if we could get back to the days of train travel and rent an electric car once there I'd be for that.

Electric Cars, Fleet, Pickup Trucks for Clean Energy

Canoo is engineering electric vehicles and leading the automotive world's transition to clean and sustainable energy.

www.canoo.com

 

[UnionStrong]

Electric Cars, Fleet, Pickup Trucks for Clean Energy

Canoo is engineering electric vehicles and leading the automotive world's transition to clean and sustainable energy.

www.canoo.com

Interesting

 

[wilberforce15]

Interesting

Arcimoto - Ultra Efficient Electric Vehicles

www.arcimoto.com

Tons of interesting startups and small manufacturers. Each of them finding their niche.

I wouldn't doubt if UPS got some Deliverators for the places we now service on golf carts.

 

[vantexan]

Arcimoto - Ultra Efficient Electric Vehicles

www.arcimoto.com

Tons of interesting startups and small manufacturers. Each of them finding their niche.

I wouldn't doubt if UPS got some Deliverators for the places we now service on golf carts.

Just spent three weeks on an UPS golf cart route. Yahoos promised 6 weeks. Won't be doing that again.

 

[Babagounj]

Bring back the GM EV1.
1997 model year: 660 Gen I units,
1999 model year: 457 Gen II units