Immediately switch to RDO.
Not a peep, although I'm a cover driver.
We've only had ORION for a few months, but we're in Boston.
Even the ORION guys said it probably wasn't going to work.
Unless your ISP tells you to run ROADS stop for stop, then I wouldn't. I'm lucky where my manager won't bother me about running routed order as long as I make service and SPH.I didn't force anything on thee, that is some management that is doing it to you... dont worry, FX is similar i followed trace and it did suck, backtracking me to the same gated community 2x 2 hours apart.
You must have some big bad sup at your building, believing that he wears the big boy britches ...Word this morning at the pcm is it won't be first 25 stops, first 30 is what it'll be. Sup said they'll tell us how to do it tomorrow. I'd definitely have late air and businesses closed if I did the first 30 in orion.
Yet those imbeciles are still shoving ORION down our throats.
ORION is garbage just about anywhere. At best it's a VERY..... VERY..... VERY expensive way of telling us to reduce miles.I believe his statement was specific to delivering in Boston which, if you have never been there or driven while there, can be a nightmare.
ORION is garbage just about anywhere. At best it's a VERY..... VERY..... VERY expensive way of telling us to reduce miles.
There's a few guys that follow it near 100% everyday and it keeps our hub average above 85%. They're taking one for the team.
That's not the impression i get from him. It's the whole building being forced on this crap and the sup atleast makes it seem all this forcing is coming from above him. We went from orion meaning nothing to all this. Doubt the sups are just going to wake up one day and start forcing orion on us all.You must have some big bad sup at your building, believing that he wears the big boy britches ...
I respectfully disagree.
Or working as directed. If ORION was such a great tool then it would shine on routes that are being run at 100%. The only people that are "beating ORION" here are the ones that are doing their own thing. And management thinks ORION is working because those people are around 85%. It's garbage.They are padding their pay checks.
They are padding their pay checks.
Well, if he meant that Orion is padding our paychecks then he is 100% correct.
I'm over miles and over allowed on the plan either way. LOL. Seems worse on ORION though. Hmmm.......I have beat the miles for the last 3 days, and was .78
hrs under yesterday,... so friend* Orion
Nothing tops RDO, and area knowledge.
ORION is garbage just about anywhere. At best it's a VERY..... VERY..... VERY expensive way of telling us to reduce miles.
They have made me a less efficient driver. The only thing coming out ahead is my paycheck.This brings up an interesting point. Although there's no doubt that UPS developed this in order to save miles (money), whether it works or not UPS now has a sophisticated tool to use against drivers. There is now a "solution" for your route everyday that shows how many miles you should be able to run it in and in how many hours. So now it places pressure on drivers to care about mileage efficiency so that you don't look incompetent especially when you decide to run it your way. Let's be honest, did we ever care about mileage before Orion? In fact, for more time allowance, guys were very casual with miles. So in the end, even if Orion itself performs poorly, UPS still wins because it has changed driver behavior.
This is just insane. How could they possibly think this is a good way to run the business?ORION and telematics metrics are back with a vengeance in my building. Harassment is now the standard tactic. They are giving warning letters out like crazy. Every other morning consists of 5-10 drivers being held over after the PCM to be giving a warning letter for ORION or "talked to" about telematics.
Some of us are required to send a message informing them that we will be over our ORION miles and to get approval for that and for each time we break trace. And they want to know by how many miles. LOL! Many of us are now running our routes at 100% no matter how stupid it is. Some are running it more logically but blasting the center with messages asking for approval to break trace. Grievances are about to be through the roof. If they aren't already.