Package DOT Hours of Service

[Mugarolla]

The 11hrs of driving rule applies to everyone with a DOT card.

No it doesn't.

It applies to anyone that drives a CMV (Commercial Motor Vehicle). While anyone who drives a CMV is required to have a DOT card, not everyone with a DOT card drives a CMV.

UPS requires all drivers to have a DOT card, but not all vehicles in their fleet are a CMV.

If you drive a package car under 10,001 lbs GVWR, P500 and P600 I believe, plus the Sprinters and Econolines, you are not subject to the DOT HOS rules.

 

[budlight]

The 11hrs of driving rule applies to everyone with a DOT card. It applies to Package Car Drivers, but it only counts against the time you are actually driving not working. A package car driver will never get 11 hrs of driving due to all that pesky delivering of packages you have to do. I’m a Feeder Driver and only the time I’m driving counts toward my 11, if I’m making a pickup, hooking up, or shifting in the yard, it does not count against my 11hrs of drive time. Yes, it does. If you shift for the first 6 hours of your job, your drive time will be 8 hours available. You can watch the minutes count down on your IVIS after your 3 extra hours are used up. Hope this helps.

Hope this helps.

 

[Rick Ross]

Hope this helps.

What part of the fact he is in package and they use the air mile exception is so difficult for people to understand. It is different for non-CDL driver's, they do not keep track of drive time.

This is not rocket science...

 

[budlight]

The guy I quoted is a feeder driver, please try to keep up.

 

[Mugarolla]

The guy I quoted is a feeder driver, please try to keep up.

You didn't quote him very well. You quoted him inside his quote.

You are also incorrect on what you said.

Since the following was not part of his original quote, I'm assuming you added this.

Yes, it does. If you shift for the first 6 hours of your job, your drive time will be 8 hours available. You can watch the minutes count down on your IVIS after your 3 extra hours are used up.

You seem to be saying that his shift time does count toward his drive time and that he has a total of 14 hours drive time available.

I'm lost.

 

[Jones]

You didn't quote him very well. You quoted him inside his quote.

You are also incorrect on what you said.

Since the following was not part of his original quote, I'm assuming you added this.

Yes, it does. If you shift for the first 6 hours of your job, your drive time will be 8 hours available. You can watch the minutes count down on your IVIS after your 3 extra hours are used up.

You seem to be saying that his shift time does count toward his drive time and that he has a total of 14 hours drive time available.

I'm lost.

I read it as saying that after 6 hours on duty(not driving) you have will have 8 hours of drive time available, which is technically correct.

 

[Mugarolla]

I read it as saying that after 6 hours on duty(not driving) you have will have 8 hours of drive time available, which is technically correct.

Yea, I read it wrong, sorry @budlight.

If he has already worked 6 hours, he only has 8 left for his 14, which could be all drive time. So yes, he has 8 hours drive time available.

The problem is that @EasyTrucker is wrong about pickups not counting toward drive time. He is correct about shifting and hooking sets.

 

[over9five]

I did a sixth punch today, just sayin'...

 

[over9five]

I did a sixth punch today, just sayin'...

PS, I did not reset so I gotta watch my hours this week...

 

[Mugarolla]

I haven't done a 6th punch in years, and that is a good thing.

 

[Rick Ross]

I'm not saying he isn't correct for feeders but the post he quoted said package car are restricted to 11 hours driving which is not a requirement that needs to be met with the air exception rules our non-CDL drivers are under.

The original post in this topic was asked by a package car driver.

 

[Jones]

I did a sixth punch today, just sayin'...

Whatcha gonna do with all that money?

 

[over9five]

Whatcha gonna do with all that money?

It does make a big bump in pay for the week!

 

[Jkloc420]

It does make a big bump in pay for the week!

hi booty shorts

 

[Johney]

It does make a big bump in pay for the week!

Why bother you get taxed to death at that point. And that pesky state tax you have.(I think you have)

 

[Daf]

The law doesn’t matter to Ups anyway. They violate laws every day and nothing happens.

 

[OrioN]

If you drive a package car under 10,001 lbs GVWR, P500 and P600 I believe, plus the Sprinters and Econolines, you are not subject to the DOT HOS rules.

Except for the 10 hour rest before the next day you're on the drivers seat, yas?

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

The law doesn’t matter to Ups anyway. They violate laws every day and nothing happens.

It's your responsibility to make sure you don't violate the DOT rules.

 

[Mugarolla]

Except for the 10 hour rest before the next day you're on the drivers seat, yas?

No.

Not subject to any part of the HOS rules if you do not drive a CMV.

 

[MAKAVELI]

No.

Not subject to any part of the HOS rules if you do not drive a CMV.

Yeah im not so sure about that. FedEx has designated DOT and non DOT drivers. If we are DOT, regardless of what we drive we have to follow the 10 hour break between shifts, the 14 hour rule, 34 hour reset and the 60/70 rule.