saintrick
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The healthcare part timers do not get until after 14 months of work?
I think it has increased just as much as the full timers has from 30 years ago.
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The healthcare part timers do not get until after 14 months of work?
I think it has increased just as much as the full timers has from 30 years ago.
It's not easy but the best of luck to you
UnconTROLLed
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I meant relative to UPS's pay now, versus the minimum. It was roughly the same difference.
sikidiki
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I'm still in my first year driving, im barley making it. When i first started i would maybe get 2 days a week and no i dont live with my parents, i have rent to pay lol. Lately i have been doing 4 days a week which i love because i can actually start paying bills while having enough to eat. But pretty soon i will have most if not all of my bills paid and i can start banking some money. It was a risky move to quit a full time job 40+ hours a week at 14 dollars an hour, but i didnt want to be stuck at a dead end job with no raises, benefits or retirement. I suffered through the first year and without my parents i wouldn't have made it. UPS is a hard gig at first but im guessing once you start moving up and making top pay and experiencing all the BS and getting used to it, its not a bad job and you will be rich! Also it probably helps i dont have a family to support or kids yet. Just myself and my 2 cats.
It will change in this next contract and there will be a lot of opportunities to go full time. One thing you need to realize is that if you only want to work one job, and it's a part-time job you will have to plan accordingly. Its hard to live on 4 or 5 hours a day.
This whole argument is lame. The big bad vets are chastising the young fresh meat and the millennial response is you made more at inflation rate.
Here is some advice. Shut up and do your job. Those old guys that razz you have every right to, they earned it. As we all know history repeats itself...after you have paid your dues, you’ll soon find yourself the vet...and the next generation of crybaby B’s bitches will be getting the same deal from their peers.
Here is some advice. Shut up and do your job. Those old guys that razz you have every right to, they earned it. As we all know history repeats itself...after you have paid your dues, you’ll soon find yourself the vet...and the next generation of crybaby B’s bitches will be getting the same deal from their peers.
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You don't get it.
olroadbeech
Happy Verified UPSer
McDonalds is hiring at 12 bucks an hour.
stop thinking that someone else is the reason you are in poverty. grow up and do something about it.
olroadbeech
Happy Verified UPSer
I'm tired of all these young people complaining. I call then the "entitlement generation" . They want everything handed to them. If you were my kid , I would slap you.
My children are all grown . When anyone of them started complaining and making excuses for their lot in life I would tell them that excuses are for losers. There is opportunity everywhere in this country. In fact , I don't think there has been a better time in our countries history for opportunity.
Just like someone else mentioned , the Northwest is booming. That means UPS is probably booming in that area. A little while ago UPS was hiring feeder drivers off the street in Oregon. The chances for fast advancement is much higher in these boom areas. There are other places in the country that are booming, housing is affordable , etc.
Housing is cheap in certain areas if you just look. Good jobs are available in certain areas if you will just look. Opportunity is all around if you will just look. There are foreign students from China , India , and other places from all over the world that are laughing at Americans. They are still in school and running companies on their computers making more than some feeder drivers. I know a couple of these people. They say it is so easy to live and prosper in America.
Move to where the greatest opportunities are and stop complaining.
My children are all grown . When anyone of them started complaining and making excuses for their lot in life I would tell them that excuses are for losers. There is opportunity everywhere in this country. In fact , I don't think there has been a better time in our countries history for opportunity.
Just like someone else mentioned , the Northwest is booming. That means UPS is probably booming in that area. A little while ago UPS was hiring feeder drivers off the street in Oregon. The chances for fast advancement is much higher in these boom areas. There are other places in the country that are booming, housing is affordable , etc.
Housing is cheap in certain areas if you just look. Good jobs are available in certain areas if you will just look. Opportunity is all around if you will just look. There are foreign students from China , India , and other places from all over the world that are laughing at Americans. They are still in school and running companies on their computers making more than some feeder drivers. I know a couple of these people. They say it is so easy to live and prosper in America.
Move to where the greatest opportunities are and stop complaining.
Hannah-banana
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I'm in the northwest. Cost of living is very high here. Look at the local job listings, they all pay minimum wage.
Do you live on minimum wage? Do you think we got the rights that we have in this country by just settling for unfair wages and bad conditions?
You are enjoying your career because people before you fought for it. The unions are still fighting for it. And so am I.
If you think McDonald's is so great, why do you work at UPS? Do you live on 12$ per hour? Yeah right.
So easy for people in good situations to tell people who are struggling how easy it is. Shame on you
I'm in the northwest. Cost of living is very high here. Look at the local job listings, they all pay minimum wage.
Do you live on minimum wage? Do you think we got the rights that we have in this country by just settling for unfair wages and bad conditions?
You are enjoying your career because people before you fought for it. The unions are still fighting for it. And so am I.
If you think McDonald's is so great, why do you work at UPS? Do you live on 12$ per hour? Yeah right.
So easy for people in good situations to tell people who are struggling how easy it is. Shame on you
She's retired. After working for years and not making excuses for herself.
Do you think everybody who went FT at UPS had high paying jobs handed to them on a silver platter while they were working up from low paying PT positions or something? It was
ing hard for most. Life can be ing brutal. If the Pacific northwest is too expensive for you to live in, GTFO.Do you really think tons of the folks on here can't relate to having
ing struggled for years?You make your own path in life, shame on you.
Not once did they say it was easy but foreigners of which they are associated said this.
That post simply says to open your eyes and look. Your cost of living high? Move else where, Your job market blows...well there are other places that have better ones. You’re complaining, whining. I work for X. I make okay money, no Benny’s ever. Moving over to brown for less money but in the long run will be worth it financially. I can’t afford to do this in the short term but I will make it work, I will be successful because the only one that can stop me is me.
Hannah-banana
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Well, I'm off to bed. Another 12 hour day between 2 jobs starts tomorrow at 2:30am and ends after 6pm. If that's "entitlement" as you call it, I have no idea what you guys expect from anyone.
Hannah-banana
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I respect the hard work people have done for what they have. Why not respect people who are doing the same thing you had to do?
Poor people can't just move around on a whim like that. I have only enough money to eat and sleep, barely. And I have lived in several states where the situation is the same.
We can't just run away, we have to turn around and fight. Asking for a couple bucks more per hour is not asking for any hand out. It's the same thing that has needed to happen over and over throughout labor history.
Poor people can't just move around on a whim like that. I have only enough money to eat and sleep, barely. And I have lived in several states where the situation is the same.
We can't just run away, we have to turn around and fight. Asking for a couple bucks more per hour is not asking for any hand out. It's the same thing that has needed to happen over and over throughout labor history.
olroadbeech
Happy Verified UPSer
this is the response i was expecting from someone like you.
you think i was born with a silver spoon in my mouth? everything we have i worked for. nothing came easy for us. hard work and lots of it. 2 jobs sometimes. 3 jobs sometimes. hard times . almost everyone has hard times but it's funny the harder i worked the luckier i got.
I'm part of the generation ( I'm old ) that fought for a lot of rights many of you take for granted . My career with UPS was never a bed of roses. Just like they say that Freedom is not free , we never have nor never will take anything for granted.
anything worth having is worth working and fighting for. always has been that way and always will.
Yes , I am enjoying my retirement after working over 40 years for all sorts of different companies. my last 23 with UPS. I want UPSers to get a strong contract but I don't want you think that your suffering is unique. We old timers have all been there.
It's tough love to tell you to grow up and take responsibility for your lives. A good swift kick in the ass never hurt anybody.
I understand your pain but you know what this job was paying before you started here
How long have you been with UPS? And how much per hour do you think you deserve?
Hannah-banana
Well-Known Member
I have respect for you and all of my elders. I apologize for being rude. I did not mean to imply that you were born with a silver spoon.
I am a fellow adult, not your kid. You won't be slapping me. I don't see where you are getting this idea that I'm not working my ass off just the same. I chose a union job because I can have a voice and not just work for peanuts.
Why is my generation standing up for ourselves any different from what your generation did? Or those before?
I won't accept any more insults, just because you are older than me. I work 12 hours everyday. I am a fellow adult .
Hannah-banana
Well-Known Member
Yes, and I'm doing it to achieve a career in the long run.
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