Payroll Tax Cut

charm299

Well-Known Member
That is easily the least informed opinion to have on the subject. A person brought here as a child, educated with our tax dollars and now gainfully employed should be sent to a country they’ve never known? How do you think that helps our economy or society at large?
Not our problem. How about using our tax dollars to help americans
 

BadIdeaGuy

Keyboard Kenny
Staff member
That is easily the least informed opinion to have on the subject. A person brought here as a child, educated with our tax dollars and now gainfully employed should be sent to a country they’ve never known? How do you think that helps our economy or society at large?

Okay.

Imagine your father was a thief.
He stole a go-kart for you to play with as a kid.
The police tracked him down, and hauled him off to jail.

Would they let you keep the dune buggy?


You didn't do anything wrong.
But it doesn't mean you get to keep it.
 

Yeet

Not gonna let ‘em catch the Midnight Rider
Didn't they say the same thing about Hillary?
To be honest with you, yes. I said the same thing about Hillary and I can’t stand the hag. I was wrong but I feel like it’s different this time. If he wins again I feel like we are headed for a civil war.
 

DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
Allowing inner city people to vote by mail so they don't have to spend 3 hours in line is not encouraging illegal voting.
Game on.
Your complaints about voting regulations in some states have nothing to do with the Republican party's platform.

Buying votes with the welfare state has literally been the entire Democrat platform for decades. It's undeniable.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
This is an absurd notion. Am I as an employer supposed to stop withholding federal taxes and trust that my employees will have it to pay next year? What if they’d rather continue to have it withheld so they don’t have to save it somewhere else? Poorly thought out plan from Trump, which is probably why this power rests in congress.
The money is taken out before they receive their paycheck so why wouldn't they have it to pay next year? Just looking to stimulate the economy and get people back to work. As the posted video showed Nancy and Democrats thought it a fine idea when they did it. Personally I don't like messing with Social Security's income stream but if they're going to do it then as long as it's temporary ok. Not ok long term. The virus is already impacting SS's solvency. The SS administration was projecting 2035 as when they may reduce monthly payments as their only income would be the payroll tax. Now with so many out of work and many years of recovery ahead analysts like Motley Fool are projecting that starting between 2030 and 2032. At least a 22% reduction in monthly payments unless they can come up with a fix of some sort.
 

It will be fine

Well-Known Member
Not our problem. How about using our tax dollars to help americans
Okay.

Imagine your father was a thief.
He stole a go-kart for you to play with as a kid.
The police tracked him down, and hauled him off to jail.

Would they let you keep the dune buggy?


You didn't do anything wrong.
But it doesn't mean you get to keep it.
Neither of you can answer how it helps our economy or society.
 

It will be fine

Well-Known Member
The money is taken out before they receive their paycheck so why wouldn't they have it to pay next year? Just looking to stimulate the economy and get people back to work. As the posted video showed Nancy and Democrats thought it a fine idea when they did it. Personally I don't like messing with Social Security's income stream but if they're going to do it then as long as it's temporary ok. Not ok long term. The virus is already impacting SS's solvency. The SS administration was projecting 2035 as when they may reduce monthly payments as their only income would be the payroll tax. Now with so many out of work and many years of recovery ahead analysts like Motley Fool are projecting that starting between 2030 and 2032. At least a 22% reduction in monthly payments unless they can come up with a fix of some sort.
If they save it to pay their taxes next year it’s not much of a stimulus. The assumption would be people are too stupid to budget so they’ll spend their extra money. Most people probably don’t even pay attention so they’ll spend it all and get shocked with a huge tax bill next year. It’s a bad idea every way you look at it.
 

HEFFERNAN

Huge Member
Your complaints about voting regulations in some states have nothing to do with the Republican party's platform.

Buying votes with the welfare state has literally been the entire Democrat platform for decades. It's undeniable.

This is literally Trump's reasoning for calling the November election "fraudulent and fixed".
IT IS HIS PLATFORM, and has become the Republicans.
 

It will be fine

Well-Known Member
Not using our tax dollars in the first place on non citizens would have helped our economy. When those non citizens send money back to their “home” country, it is in fact hurting our economy.
Those tax dollar have already been spent. How does sending a gainfully employed tax payer to another country help ours?
 

It will be fine

Well-Known Member
The money is taken out before they receive their paycheck so why wouldn't they have it to pay next year? Just looking to stimulate the economy and get people back to work. As the posted video showed Nancy and Democrats thought it a fine idea when they did it. Personally I don't like messing with Social Security's income stream but if they're going to do it then as long as it's temporary ok. Not ok long term. The virus is already impacting SS's solvency. The SS administration was projecting 2035 as when they may reduce monthly payments as their only income would be the payroll tax. Now with so many out of work and many years of recovery ahead analysts like Motley Fool are projecting that starting between 2030 and 2032. At least a 22% reduction in monthly payments unless they can come up with a fix of some sort.
Or is the plan my company still withholds employee’s portion but doesn’t pay it? That’s an even worse idea.
 

Yeet

Not gonna let ‘em catch the Midnight Rider
This is literally Trump's reasoning for calling the November election "fraudulent and fixed".
IT IS HIS PLATFORM, and has become the Republicans.
This is what I love about politics. Literally both sides do the same :censored2: but “it’s ok when my side does it.”
 

HEFFERNAN

Huge Member
I don't even know why Democrats are talking about the economy , They are clueless when it comes to finances , businesses and the economy because if they had a clue they would be in the stock market , and if you are in the stock market and you don't vote for Trump you are just stupid !!!
The stock market went up 175% during Obama's terms, Trump 30%
The unemployment rate kept trending down every year Obama was in office, it's not his fault he had to leave after 2 terms.
Your Trump economy fantasy is just that.
 

charm299

Well-Known Member
Those tax dollar have already been spent. How does sending a gainfully employed tax payer to another country help ours?
how? The money they earned is being sent back to wherever they came from. What don’t you understand about that? Billions and billions of dollars are being sent to Mexico every year. Our tax dollars shouldn’t have been used in the first place to educate these kids.
 

HEFFERNAN

Huge Member
Executive orders have to be done in good faith.
When the man who wrote "The Art of the Deal" went golfing instead of hashing out an agreement, that says it all.
Trump already knows his EO's are getting tossed in court.

 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
The stock market went up 175% during Obama's terms, Trump 30%
The unemployment rate kept trending down every year Obama was in office, it's not his fault he had to leave after 2 terms.
Your Trump economy fantasy is just that.
Yah, the economy recovered from the worst recession since the Great Depression and Obama took credit for it naturally rising from the depths.
 
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