MAKAVELI
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You don't have to have worked to qualify for Medicare as well. I guess them darn seniors are free loaders as well.
President Trump
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BrownArmy
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It's the same choice you have under obamacare: Maintain an insurance policy or pay the penalty. And make no mistake under both systems the goal is make the penalty so punitive that for the vast majority of people it's not really a choice at all.
BakerMayfield2018
Fight the power.
No one even knows who that is.
I saw that and you can see where he's coming from. Even if the republicans can repeal obamacare they can't repeal the ideas behind it. People are now going to demand a system wherein insurance can't be denied to anybody and the only way a such a system is sustainable is by forcing the majority of people to buy insurance to increase the size of the risk pool.
oldngray
nowhere special
Obamacare was always planned to fail as the first step to single payer. Many of the changes can't be completely undone and the attitude would be at least single payer isn't as bad.
I don't know that it was literally planned to fail but there's no question that a lot of people (probably Obama included) viewed it as an interim step towards a universal healthcare system.
oldngray
nowhere special
Nope. Trump said Australia is better than the mess of Obamacare that we have now. Not that we should follow their system. Points out the need to fix what Obama broke.
It will be fine
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That might be true if the public option had been included. Add in the public option and everyone would see a for profit company can't compete with the government. Insurance is most efficient by with large pool of contributors. The largest possible pool would be the whole country. Factor in the lack of need for profit and single payer is really the only reasonable solution.
Catatonic
Nine Lives
And make companies buy HealthCare Insurance from the US Central Government?
It will be fine
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Why would companies buy it? I think the tying of health insurance to an employer is one of the worst things for American workers and companies. It hurts workers because they stay at jobs that treat them horribly because they need the insurance. This limits worker mobility that helps keep wages low. It hurts companies because in order to compete they need to bear the cost of health insurance while their international competitors don't. There's a reason no other country has health insurance tied to employers.
Catatonic
Nine Lives
And I actually know the reason but I'm curious if you do?
You should probably google.
Catatonic
Nine Lives
So your answer is 'No'?
Catatonic
Nine Lives
I agree with this.
I have been a supporter of Universal Healthcare for about 20 years now. Before that, I did not.
I also believe Employers can provide Enhanced HealthCare in addition to the Universal Healthcare.
There will always be an Enhanced HealthCare option so the government might as well embrace that concept.
It will be fine
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Is that system one where all the basics are universal with people having an option for additional coverage? I've heard of systems like that but I don't really understand the specifics. What "extras" are there to cover? Dental? Eyes? Elective surgeries?
