Pushed vacation back a week

[Big Rigger]

That “spoiled” UPS member claim is just a piss poor excuse for lousy language and concessions. Many in the higher International echelons wholeheartedly believe that we are, instead of negotiating a fair and equal contract for every member.

How about the Western conferences being allowed to vote on the Central and Southern‘s pension benefits under the Master. Is there a particular reason we have duplicate language under the Central Supplement and the Master? Just let the Central and Southern vote on their own pension benefits and continue to let the West vote for theirs under the Master.. simple enough.

Benefits under the team care plan could be improved annually. The International has no say on how they administrate their insurance purchases. The IBT only negotiates the annual increases that the companies have to provide to their members health and welfare providers.

Vairma said the Vote No movement hacked him off because it was done prematurely. Evidently the members had enough of the same "representational" attitudes from 2013 to guess they had to start strong. Did he not remember the last election results?! His mentality shows how out of touch he is with ups Teamsters.

 

[Big Rigger]

They are now paying $18.50 an hour for part timers off the street in our building. Would not surprise me that by 2023 rolls along they will be upping that to over $ 20.00.

They discontinued the weekly attendance bonus with that starting wage?
Then it was a wash.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Get those part timers to vote and that will rock corporate's boat. Insurance from day one, Vacation time given from day one. Four hour guarantee to make it half of full time's which it should be...not that the lifers will stay four hours.

Starting rate $17/hr like I'm seeing Amazon is offering.

Unfortunately people are lazy

 

[Indecisi0n]

The kid isn’t even born yet and he already is causing issues. When will people learn, nothing good comes from having kids.

 

[iruhnman630]

They need to change up one punch rule

By change you mean eliminate.

It is a ridiculous rule which never should have been accepted by the union nor created by the company.

There should be no lapse in coverage until your employment ends or a leave is granted

 

[NAHimGOOD]

Bestestest contract evar

 

[BigUnionGuy]

It is a ridiculous rule which never should have been accepted by the union nor created by the company.

Central States/Teamcare has had that provision before UPS was in it.

Freight Teamsters have had a 3 punch a week requirement, for many many years.


Back when UPS had the healthcare, there was a 1 punch per month rule.

Thats why they would try to fire people at the end of the month.... not the beginning.

 

[bottomups]

If you file for FMLA as the primary care taker of your wife for those days the company will automatically move your vacations to cover the time you take off except for the last week which is then your choice to retain it or use it to cover the last week off.

Your healthcare is covered by the FMLA leave.

End of story.
The one punch per week was a surprise that the teamster leadership dropped on us in 2013. Never heard a word about it until after ratification. That hacked a lot of people off and if you didn't know about the change and swapped a vacation week with another employee some found out the hard way.

Others on here in support of the ibt ridiculed upsers saying we were spoiled.
Wonder why people don't trust the ibt leadership who allowed two whole regions to vote on other region's healthcare but weren't subject to it themselves.

So you chose not to attend your union's proposed contract information meeting prior to voting for the 2013 contract and yet blame them for sneaking in a change?

 

[Big Rigger]

So you chose not to attend your union's proposed contract information meeting prior to voting for the 2013 contract and yet blame them for sneaking in a change?

I attended all the meetings, including the teamcare special meeting where the guy from Chicago came to sell it after the cba was voted down in the region and in our state rider.
NOT ONE TIME was the one punch per week change brought up. And you think you can presume what other members do and don't do?
You're a joke and your childish assertions are just that...childish.

But since you brought it up...
I sat through the meetings and DID hear him boast that the company's plan only gave our family six months of extended health insurance if the member dies and that teamcare gave the family five years free. Then he turned his face away from all of us back to the white board he was writing on and mumbled that the five year period was pending the member never went outside of the network once in the two years prior to the members death.

I stopped him and asked him to repeat this to the group and he was agitated. After he reluctantly repeated it to the group I asked him what coverage the family had if they had gone out of network two years prior to the member's death and he said "none".

Blow your smoke somewhere else. You have no clue.

 

[ManInBrown]

At the end of the day it’s not fair but just know you would never be on the hook for the $8k. All you would have to do is pay for one week of Cobra. You should’ve received a letter in the mail stating there was a break on coverage and cobra is an option. I know it’s not what you want to hear but it’s a worse case scenario option, if you are unable to get it fixed.

 

[Brownslave688]

Your supervisor can fix that with a key stroke He just has to put you in a scheduled off

Scheduled off doesn’t count as a punch though

 

[DELACROIX]

Central States/Teamcare has had that provision before UPS was in it.

Freight Teamsters have had a 3 punch a week requirement, for many many years.


Back when UPS had the healthcare, there was a 1 punch per month rule.

Thats why they would try to fire people at the end of the month.... not the beginning.

“Sneaky Bastards...”

 

[DELACROIX]

Why in the world do we need 1 punch per week to keep insurance active? I seriously doubt ups pays insurance per week.

Obviously they do pay weekly, so if you are scheduled off for the entire week you forfeit your health coverage and will be forced to pay for COBRA for that missing payment from the Company.

You would think that Team Care would cover it till they get a clarification on why you were off...
No.. just send a form letter denying any payment for any medical treatments for that week.

See above

 

[Karma...]

so thats 18.50/hr and how much for the benefits like vacation, a/s days, oh days, pension, health, welfare, etc........to be fair and whole total costs must be considered.

 

[PASinterference]

Scheduled off doesn’t count as a punch though

An option day counts as a punch. In the Southern, anyway.

 

[Brownslave688]

An option day counts as a punch. In the Southern, anyway.

Yes but not scheduled off

 

[Big Rigger]

Believe it or not there are members who step up and fill in the gap for the members who don't come to meetings, knowing that they depend on stewards to explain the situation to them and most all of our building votes because they know the stewards have their backs.
The blind insults on here are a bit overzealous often and even tho it really doesn't matter in reality it does...to a few who bleed family and personal time for good members who struggle to stand up for themselves.

Does that make stewards better than the membership? Heck no, but down deep and inside, after seeing abusive work environment prospering without a response there are some people born with the spine to say "Nope, this stops today" and regardless of the cost they face the wind.

The President of local 100 in the Cincinnati, Ohio area stood up and took the hit when he was a steward while trying to get OSHA egress issues addressed. After the company got their over $200,000 fine (and it was posted in Bloomberg media) he was taken out of service for several months for a nit picky and ridiculous issue. Bill then came back to work and ran against his local leadership, winning the President position. The members backed him up because they trusted him and they stepped up to vote when they were needed.

That right there is enough thanks from the membership to keep fighting for. Let's not sell good teamsters short.

 

[Big Rigger]

Unfortunately people are lazy

Don't forget self centered.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Don't forget self centered.

That too

 

[eats packages]

Just seconding everybody who mentioned FMLA.