Question for Southern Region.

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by 542thruNthru, May 19, 2020.

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  1. Jkloc420

    Jkloc420 Well-Known Member

    @Please Call Center
     
  2. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Well-Known Member

    TCD's are put on road based on area knowledge, not seniority.
     
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  3. DriveInDriveOut

    DriveInDriveOut Proud Deplorable

    Your dedication to being completely wrong on so many different topics is amazing Dan.
     
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  4. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Well-Known Member

    There is no seniority for TCDs.
     
  5. burrheadd

    burrheadd KING Of GIFS

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    Are you really this ignorant
     
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  6. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    I've never thought @UpstateNYUPSer was stupid, just ignorant.

    He worked in a small (25 driver) building and was an off-the-street hire.


    Not much room for promotion there....

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  7. charm299

    charm299 Member

    Wrong, tcds get to bid routes and asked to work in seniority order
     
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  8. dogs.bite.me

    dogs.bite.me Active Member

    we have had jobs added because of this language.

    just recognize that just because a TCD gets those punches doesn’t mean that job is his. we still follow seniority.

    there was some confusion about that here, with some guys thinking that since they were the one with the 156 reports, that the job belonged to them.

    usually we didn’t have to file either, just asked them to give us the driver punch count for said employees and there was a bid sheet pulled out and the process for promotion starts.

    We usually only had 1 a year tho, not a lot at one time like you are saying.
     
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  9. Jdubjr

    Jdubjr Member

    This is exactly how I became a full-time driver. A cover driver had over 156 reports. I didn’t have to file a grievance just had steward take the issue up with management. My seniority was backdated months to when the 156th report took place.
     
  10. What'dyabringmetoday???

    What'dyabringmetoday??? Well-Known Member

    If Dave says that they have no seniority then they have no seniority.
     
  11. Rick Ross

    Rick Ross I'm into distribution!!

    When I covered we had our top TCD file on this thinking he would get the job. Another PT employee with more seniority signed it and got the bid. He was a real jerk so we were all happy about it even though we didn't move up a spot on the TCD list.
     
  12. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Well-Known Member

    ...and to think.....I could have been Jimmy's piss boy....oh, wait.....that's your job
     
  13. tramtwo

    tramtwo Member

    Our Center has had several full-time positions created over the last couple of years... the grievance has to be written. These grievances are usually written by the tcd's because once they hit 156 they get paid out at the cover driver 8 hour rate for vacations and holidays the following calendar year.... incentive.
     
  14. PASinterference

    PASinterference Yes, I know I'm working late.

    IE keeps up with it here. They won't announce the 156th report, but it is documented. Highest seniority part timer can fill the spot. No arguing over it. No way to hide it or deny it. Kinda strange its one of the few things they don't fight lately. Although they do announce it like they do it out of the goodness of their own heart. Riiiiiiight. Like they have a heart.
     
  15. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    The issue is. We're looking at around 40 cover drivers with 156 reports. I just don't see the company going for that without a big fight.
     
  16. Rack em

    Rack em First to worst!

    Tough :censored2:, they agreed to the terms of the contract. They should have payed more attention.
     
  17. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Yes but we all know how that goes.
     
  18. DriveInDriveOut

    DriveInDriveOut Proud Deplorable

    Wow.

    The company should be happy they got away with that for as long as they did.

    If you've got that many working that much then you should have had those positions all along.
     
  19. Wontmake9.5

    Wontmake9.5 My job is fun

    Our center seems to do that. We have fulltime drivers that have only been with ups for like 2 years because we have used so many cover drivers. We had in my center around 12 cover drivers 6 of them are now fulltime within the last 6months or so.
     
  20. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    The cover driver language was taken advantage of here badly.