Question for Southern Region.

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by 542thruNthru, May 19, 2020.

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  1. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    I have a question for my Southern Region brothers and sisters. We recently had language added to our rider in the Southwest pertaining to cover driver reports.
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    I know that the southern region has something similar in their supp.
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    My question is what type of success if any you have had with this language? If none what were the reasons? Does anyone know any TCDs that have filed a grievance for this?

    I ask this because soon all our cover drivers will be filing a grievance with this language. I know the company will fight it tooth and nail and I'm curious how other locals have fared.

    Thanks for any help.
     
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  2. burrheadd

    burrheadd KING Of GIFS

    How do you get added language in the middle of a contract?
    Was it negotiated?
     
  3. RTCD

    RTCD Member

    You’ll have to get an official count of 3C (TCD) punches for every cover driver... there’s always a magical difference between actual 3C reports and what the center says.

    Your language reads much better in that 156 reports gets a new FT RPCD job, not just a new FT 22.4.
     
  4. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    We should get together and talk this over at a bar.
     
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  5. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Sorry I said it that way because this will be the first year we can actually file because of the delay in ratification.
     
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  6. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    I'll meet you at The Rail at 3796 5th Ave.
     
  7. Overpaid Union Thug

    Overpaid Union Thug Well-Known Member

    I think we’ve had one new job created as a result. Management has been pretty good about watching each individual’s reports since then. The language would be better if it accounted for multiple TCDs getting 156 reports collectively.
     
  8. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    How do they switch them around? Don't they have to follow seniority? Wouldn't the highest seniority TCD always work before others?
     
  9. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Yep. Should say for every 156 reports a new job will be created.
     
  10. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    You’ve never taken a dead day when offered right?
     
  11. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Yes I have. Thats a ton of dead days for a TCD especially in a supp that has language that unpaid days off must be offered by seniority.
     
  12. Overpaid Union Thug

    Overpaid Union Thug Well-Known Member

    They only use them when absolutely necessary. Plus, there are actually around 252 work days in a year so that makes it a little easier to manage.
     
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  13. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Our area is so used to using cover drivers year round that they are not even paying attention to the number of days worked. That plus the pandemic, every single cover driver will easily hit 156 reports by end of August I believe.
     
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  14. Overpaid Union Thug

    Overpaid Union Thug Well-Known Member

    Well, hopefully your local isn’t as weak as ours has gotten lately. If so....good luck with that.
     
  15. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Yeah thats my worry.
     
  16. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    We don’t have TCD so way out of my element. Used to like it that way but between the summer free period and the Christmas free period the company just has to limp by a few weeks on each side and they don’t have to hire anyone.
     
  17. DriveInDriveOut

    DriveInDriveOut Proud Deplorable

    Looks like they could have filed as soon as they got 156 reports last year.

    Devil's advocate....
    Have any RPCD positions been added since the 156th report occurred? If so, that would have already fulfilled the requirement right?
     
  18. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    We were told because the contract had not been ratified and 22.4s were not allowed. That the 156 report language wouldn't start till this year.
     
  19. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member


    You mean the company saying that the RPCDs that have been hired count towards the 156 reports language. Even if that were true. My center alone has 10 cover drivers. We haven't hired 10 RPCDs. Heck we may not have hired 10 RPCDs in the whole building.
     
  20. DriveInDriveOut

    DriveInDriveOut Proud Deplorable

    Yea that's what I'm saying and it's the kind of crap that goes down in the southern.
    Sounds like you're about to.
    Go get em.