Raise??
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They started a new raise system last year that kicks in the Friday after the first full week in March. Details should be posted in your station. If your current pay is less than the midway point in your pay range you get 3%. If you are above the midway point in the 3rd quartile you get 5%. If you are above the 3/4 point of the pay range you are in the 4th quartile and get 6% but can't go over the top of range.
Problem for those of us in lower half of pay range is if they raise starting pay or top of the range or both the midway point goes up too. Someone starting out today could still take many years just to catch the midway point if it keeps going up. They'll pretty much have to raise starting pay once in awhile to attract new workers and if they don't raise top-out they'll have those guys screaming too. So once again a bunch of window dressing to make it look like they're doing something positive but very little has changed for mid-range employees. If they were sincere about topping us out we'd be back to system that gave us up to 7% raises instead of this 3%.
Problem for those of us in lower half of pay range is if they raise starting pay or top of the range or both the midway point goes up too. Someone starting out today could still take many years just to catch the midway point if it keeps going up. They'll pretty much have to raise starting pay once in awhile to attract new workers and if they don't raise top-out they'll have those guys screaming too. So once again a bunch of window dressing to make it look like they're doing something positive but very little has changed for mid-range employees. If they were sincere about topping us out we'd be back to system that gave us up to 7% raises instead of this 3%.
Goldilocks
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I certainly hope so because my 401 has already taken 3% more out of my weekly checks. Up to 10% now. Yikes...
The middle of the pay range. For example if starting pay is $16 and top pay is $24 then the midway point is $20. If you are making $18hr then your raise is 3% which is 54 cents. If you are making $21hr then your raise is 5% or $1.05. Makes quite a difference.
Using the above example if they raise starting pay 3% it goes to $16.48. If they raise top-out 3% it goes to $24.72. The midway point is now $20.60. So the guy getting a 54 cent raise is now further behind the midway point than he was. How fast he catches the midway point depends on whether they keep pay range the same, or raise starting or top-out, or worst case raise both and move the midway point up substantially.
The above is just an example. Actual numbers will depend on what payscale you are on.
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Goldilocks
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I wish this would change and that middle range employees would be topped out in 18 to 24 months like we did. Just does not seem fair at all......
You can check that in Prism, get a mgr to show you how, or call HR. Don't know what current top out is there but guessing you are over $26hr, maybe $27hr. New York is on the J payscale, the 2nd highest. The L payscale, the highest, is only paid in the San Francisco-Silicon Valley area.
MrFedEx
Engorged Member
About 17 years.
Glorifiedpackmule
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Does anyone know how long it takes to top out at UPS rightnow?
Goldilocks
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Not sure, but probably a very short time. UPS takes very good care of their employees....
Glorifiedpackmule
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Yeah. Started out there as a package handler then started driving when I turned 21. Should of stayed but had to move. No transfers. Came over to Express because the starting pay wasn't too bad. Low and behold 8 years later I'm less than a buck ahead of starting pay. But hey... FedEx is better than UPS right?? lol.
Operational needs
Virescit Vulnere Virtus
You believed the hype and drank some of the purple Kool-Aid didn't you? Poor thing.
Route 66
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unfortunately way too many of us did exactly the same thing. "Unions won't do a damn thing for ya but take your money" I can still hear those words ringing in my ears as though it was yesterday. (sigh)
Glorifiedpackmule
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I also remember being told that "we don't need a union here, we take care of our own" by a Sr manager.
Route 66
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yes, we didn't realize back then that the term "we're gonna take care of you" was the same way Michael Corleone meant it.
hypo hanna
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There was also the lie.......
"Sure UPS has better benefits buts its offset by union dues and when they strike they get no support from their union.
Operational needs
Virescit Vulnere Virtus
I would wear purple with pink polka dots at this point if I could make what UPS makes....
