Griffin1820
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Why does the 5th day have to be on the same route?
Route selection
- Thread starter Rack em
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1989
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Good question? The language does not say “same route”.
Bubblehead
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Reread the first sentence of Article 3, Section 18 of the Central Region Supplement again.
Your answer is contained within.
Indecisi0n
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If you don't have a route and are a cover drinker there really isn't anything you can do. I never heard of seniority giving you first choice of what one might perceive as "better work".
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Routes are assigned based on area knowledge.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
"Employees within the full-time driver classification shall be eligible for the protection of this Section provided: (1) the employee covers a route for a full week; (2) the employee bids or is assigned to cover a route for a full week but is prevented from completing that bid or assignment due to reassignment by the Employer; or (3) an employee with four (4) years of seniority as a full-time package driver."
https://teamster.org/sites/teamster.org/files/6161478090_master_final.pdf
It doesn't ?
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Rack em
Made the Podium
Not according to my BA. Seniority prevails.
1989
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Just don’t screw your neighbor.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
"A route".... in the singular sense. Meaning 1 route for the entire week.
It depends on your Local seniority practice.
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1989
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That was 1 route a day the entire week. If it meant the same route the entire week, wouldn’t they have worded it “same route”? Besides, the only reason I did 5 different route is because I was:
(2) the employee bids or is assigned to cover a route for a full week but is prevented from completing that bid or assignment due to reassignment by the Employer;
Therefore I would be covered as an under 4 year driver.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
You're trying to read something into the language, that suits your needs.
Did you "bid" the route for the week ?
Were you assigned a specific route, for the entire week ?
Do you have documentation to prove it ?
I'm trying to help you not lose a grievance.
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1989
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It seems you are adding the word “same “. I am only using the words they wrote.
We don’t bid on routes.
Mgmt puts us on open routes. Higher seniority drivers can bump lower ones on any given day.
What is the definition of assigned?
If I do the 1A on Monday because that person is on vacation, wasn’t i assigned that route? Then I am moved on Tuesday by mgmt. doesn’t that count?
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
What supplement and Local agreement are you covered by ?
Maybe I'm confusing you with some else.
Aren't you management ?
1989
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Western
joint council 3 and 28 (use same practice)
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
1989
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Bail after a strike. If no outlook of working in sight. I’ve got a ton of things to pay for before retirement and only 6 months cash to burn thu.
Fragile
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Local supplements cover these sort of jobs.
In my local FT unassigned cover drivers (meaning they never bid a route but are guaranteed 8) reserve the same right under the contract that bid drivers do. 9.5 opt in, 10 hour OT grievances, and 8 hour requests apply the same way they do drivers with bid routes. They are on the same center seniority list as drivers with bid routes because they are within the same classification. Start times are in seniority order regardless whether the driver has a bid route or not.
Unassigned cover drivers pick open routes or split cars by seniority.
Needs of the business can be used a maximum amount of 2 times a month by the company in the center (not always enforced, depends on the relationship between the the employees and management).
Also, national language allows you to use the local supplement (or national) if it is more beneficial for the member.
In my local FT unassigned cover drivers (meaning they never bid a route but are guaranteed 8) reserve the same right under the contract that bid drivers do. 9.5 opt in, 10 hour OT grievances, and 8 hour requests apply the same way they do drivers with bid routes. They are on the same center seniority list as drivers with bid routes because they are within the same classification. Start times are in seniority order regardless whether the driver has a bid route or not.
Unassigned cover drivers pick open routes or split cars by seniority.
Needs of the business can be used a maximum amount of 2 times a month by the company in the center (not always enforced, depends on the relationship between the the employees and management).
Also, national language allows you to use the local supplement (or national) if it is more beneficial for the member.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
Yep.
"Any lesser conditions contained in any Supplement, Rider or Addendum shall be superseded by the conditions contained in this Master Agreement. However, except where specifically stated otherwise in the Master Agreement, nothing in this Master Agreement shall deprive any employee of any superior benefit contained in their Supplement, Rider or Addendum."
https://teamster.org/sites/teamster.org/files/6161478090_master_final.pdf
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thisjobaintforeverybody
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The problem is, for T-S drivers, you can't meet the qualifications, assuming you don't have four years in, because the route you covered for four days isn't in on Sat.
