Rumors of buy out?

bacha29

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That's a possibility, especially since Amazon business is actually increasing because so many people are shopping online in the midst of the Covid-19 panic. Bezos could buy FedEx for cash and hardly even feel it.
Bezos stock wise has fared reasonably well these past few days and less than 1% of his stock is currently shorted but the trouble with it is that it's trading at nearly 80X earnings and if he were to try to buy out Fat Freddy the antitrust lawsuits would come flying from all directions.
But, come Tuesday after the bell if the news out of Memphis is not good and Q4 looks even worse be prepared for anything.
 

vantexan

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Bezos stock wise has fared reasonably well these past few days and less than 1% of his stock is currently shorted but the trouble with it is that it's trading at nearly 80X earnings and if he were to try to buy out Fat Freddy the antitrust lawsuits would come flying from all directions.
But, come Tuesday after the bell if the news out of Memphis is not good and Q4 looks even worse be prepared for anything.
Isn't the only way he could buy FedEx is if he can get 50.1% of the stock? Is that much stock available? And even at today's prices that's a lot of money for a company he isn't familiar with how it runs.
 

MrFedEx

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Isn't the only way he could buy FedEx is if he can get 50.1% of the stock? Is that much stock available? And even at today's prices that's a lot of money for a company he isn't familiar with how it runs.

It would probably depend on how FedEx does in the near future. It's possible that some transportation types could do very well with Covid-19 as people stay home and buy online.

If the general economy tanks, and it's kind of looking that way, all bets are off.
 

vantexan

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ever heard of a hostile take over?
Um, yes, but that requires buying enough stock to takeover. That's the point of a publicly traded company and why companies do stock but backs. They are vulnerable to takeovers if there's too much stock floating around as well as too much stock on the open market dilutes share value.
 

bbsam

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Um, yes, but that requires buying enough stock to takeover. That's the point of a publicly traded company and why companies do stock but backs. They are vulnerable to takeovers if there's too much stock floating around as well as too much stock on the open market dilutes share value.
If stock is at $100 offer $118.
 

bacha29

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Um, yes, but that requires buying enough stock to takeover. That's the point of a publicly traded company and why companies do stock but backs. They are vulnerable to takeovers if there's too much stock floating around as well as too much stock on the open market dilutes share value.
According to information publicly available institutional investors hold nearly 75% of the shares
 

vantexan

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If stock is at $100 offer $118.
How many billions would that be and once you have it then what? Y'all make it sound like buying a company as large and complex as FedEx is easy to do. If it's that easy why hasn't someone done it already? I can remember FedEx stock under $30 a share. Surely someone would have snatched it up then?
 

bbsam

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Staff member
How many billions would that be and once you have it then what? Y'all make it sound like buying a company as large and complex as FedEx is easy to do. If it's that easy why hasn't someone done it already? I can remember FedEx stock under $30 a share. Surely someone would have snatched it up then?
I don’t say it’s easy. I say it does happen. And you’re right. For Amazon, the money is the easy part.
As for what comes next? Probably continued integration much like what has been happening ever since Fedex bought Caliber systems. Hopefully it would go smoother than FedEx’s purchase of TNT.
And when was Fedex stock at $30? Was Amazon even capable of building or purchasing its own delivery company at that time?
 

bacha29

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If earnings continue on their downward trajectory why buy the stock now at 106 when you can wait a year and buy it at 66?
If Tuesday's earnings report is as bad as some fear it will be and the forward looking guidance doesn't try to mask what is likely to be a not very positive outlook then I wouldn't be surprised if the stock goes below 90 . If it does then where the new support level lies is anybody's guess and if this keeps up then all it's going to take would be for a couple of those institutional investors to throw in the towel .
 

vantexan

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Makes little sense to buy out someone who'll soon be leaving.
A topped out courier making $30hr and averaging 5 hours of guaranteed pay a week is getting over $6500 a year in free money if you exclude 5 weeks of vacation and 4 weeks before Christmas. If he plans to work until 67 that's thousands of workers getting millions of free money for years to come. An incentive of say $10k to take pension now if eligible might make a dent in the pain. Might save FedEx $50-$100 million a year. With the new pay plan, assuming they don't suspend it in this environment, that's more and more people getting higher pay every year and most of them are getting free money too. Reducing the workforce allows restructuring of routes to get them above 35 hrs. As is all the stations with 4X10 rts are going to most likely 5 day shifts and you'll have a 4X10 cover driver added to the mix. So reduced hours for fulltimers.
 

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A topped out courier making $30hr and averaging 5 hours of guaranteed pay a week is getting over $6500 a year in free money if you exclude 5 weeks of vacation and 4 weeks before Christmas. If he plans to work until 67 that's thousands of workers getting millions of free money for years to come. An incentive of say $10k to take pension now if eligible might make a dent in the pain. Might save FedEx $50-$100 million a year. With the new pay plan, assuming they don't suspend it in this environment, that's more and more people getting higher pay every year and most of them are getting free money too. Reducing the workforce allows restructuring of routes to get them above 35 hrs. As is all the stations with 4X10 rts are going to most likely 5 day shifts and you'll have a 4X10 cover driver added to the mix. So reduced hours for fulltimers.
Hahaha! $10,000? Who in their right mind would leave for that little bit of money?
 

59 Dano

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A topped out courier making $30hr and averaging 5 hours of guaranteed pay a week is getting over $6500 a year in free money if you exclude 5 weeks of vacation and 4 weeks before Christmas. If he plans to work until 67 that's thousands of workers getting millions of free money for years to come. An incentive of say $10k to take pension now if eligible might make a dent in the pain. Might save FedEx $50-$100 million a year. With the new pay plan, assuming they don't suspend it in this environment, that's more and more people getting higher pay every year and most of them are getting free money too. Reducing the workforce allows restructuring of routes to get them above 35 hrs. As is all the stations with 4X10 rts are going to most likely 5 day shifts and you'll have a 4X10 cover driver added to the mix. So reduced hours for fulltimers.

Makes little sense to buy out someone who'll soon be retiring.
 
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