Rumors!

[menotyou]

I remember when the last contract was ratified, someone here(in the know) said pt Benny's were almost a goner then. I fear that PT'ers will get the shaft. I believe new hire PT'ers will not receive Benny's. There is no way they would dare take away the Benny's from current employees. But, I do fear this could occur. It would be absolute BS if it did!

 

[GolfCart]

The next contract is going to suck , UPS is going to try to TAKE TAKE TAKE AWAY from us . I think tellamatics will be enforced ( warnind letters or more ) , performance could be in contract , maybe take option 3 away ( sick days ) . I feel its going to suck balls . 24 years this yr and getting worse EVERY DAY !! ( at MY hub )

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I agree with Goochy that the next contract will allow technology to be used for discipline. I also agree that performance will be addressed through the use of 3 day rides to establish a base line and then an established deviation from this baseline. I thought that health care would be an issue but I think that UPS will address this by not offering health care benefits to new PT employees. I think that the biggest issue will be the proposal of a two-tiered wage system for FT seniority drivers, with a lower top out and longer progression for new hires, and the use of a signing bonus to try to get this proposal implemented. I don't think they will touch personal/optional/sick days.

 

[brown_trousers]

There has been a steady pattern of teamster contracts negotiating less and less through each subsequent contract. Pretty soon we will reach that threshold where teamsters actually negotiate us pay-cuts and lower benefits (I'm extrapolating a little there!)

Gone are the strong negotiating days when Teamsters would negotiate $2-3 raises per year

 

[rocket man]

money is good a raise would be good or give us a helper or give us a option of 4 day weeks i think sat ground for ressys should be done monday would be a great day or more option days i enjoy 4 day weeks but i also want the contract to be good for new employees that is our retirment in the future. good luck to us all , not kline.

 

[Jack4343]

Question...doesn't UPS get a better rate on Insurance coverage based on the number of employees that are in the plan? If so, then cutting benefits to part-timers would actually cost them money instead of saving money.

 

[anonymous6]

a contract is an agreement between 2 or more parties. a legal agreement to be honored by both parties.

have you seen that recently by this company?

rumor has it that the next hoffa contract for us will be the best (sham) ever.

 

[Brownslave688]

Ok people none of this stuff has to be agreed to. We can vote No and let the union and company know how we feel when they try to short us. Personally I'll vote no on anything that gives up anything already agreed to and any raises of less than $1 a year. This is bare minimum to keep up with inflation!!!!!!

 

[NYdriver]

I heard in the next election ASSanta will be running against hoffa

 

[av8torntn]

Ok people none of this stuff has to be agreed to. We can vote No and let the union and company know how we feel when they try to short us. Personally I'll vote no on anything that gives up anything already agreed to and any raises of less than $1 a year. This is bare minimum to keep up with inflation!!!!!!

I think your fear of inflation is very real and an excellent reason to vote against a long term contract.

 

[Brownslave688]

It's not a fear of inflation it's a historical fact. Over the last 100 years it averages about 3.5%. That means the prices for everything doubles every 20 years. That means when I retire I need to be making about $150,000 a year. That sounds pretty absurd right now but it won't in 25 years. This is what cracks me up when they talk about taxing people more that make over $200,000(couples) because they use to be taxed more back in the day. Well guess what $200,000 now does not equal $200,000 from 1980.

 

[Covemastah]

Canada becomes 51st state in '12.

cach do you really want Klien as an American ?? Think about that one will yah !!

 

[Covemastah]

There will be hot tubs put int all Feeder Lounges and drinks served to the men by hot women in "Daisey Dukes "" !!!!

 

[grgrcr88]

I agree with Goochy that the next contract will allow technology to be used for discipline. I also agree that performance will be addressed through the use of 3 day rides to establish a base line and then an established deviation from this baseline. I thought that health care would be an issue but I think that UPS will address this by not offering health care benefits to new PT employees. I think that the biggest issue will be the proposal of a two-tiered wage system for FT seniority drivers, with a lower top out and longer progression for new hires, and the use of a signing bonus to try to get this proposal implemented. I don't think they will touch personal/optional/sick days.

I think you are way off on all of these. However if the company attempts to take away p/t benefits from current employees, I forsee a strike!!

 

[grgrcr88]

There will be hot tubs put int all Feeder Lounges and drinks served to the men by hot women in "Daisey Dukes "" !!!!

There is a job for Menotyou!!!

 

[YouKnowWhoIam]

There is a job for Menotyou!!!

Knew I should have stayed in feeders!

 

[menotyou]

I was a waitress and bartender years ago. I think I could get back into the swing of it real quick.

 

[Southwestern]

(1) UPS is making billions; its Small Package Division is profitable. Give-backs are simply unrealistic.

(2) Part-timers significantly outnumber full-timers. While voter turnout among PT ishistorically low, you can bet that should UPS attempt to eliminate PTbenefits, it would surge (similar to how voter turnout among AfricanAmericans surged during the 2008 election). It's possible benefits could be cut for new hires, but not current.

(3) Full-timers are already generously compensated. In recent years, shippers have complained about soaring shipping costs. Given that FedEx has almost completely rebuilt its Ground network in the past decade (including building more than a dozen very large hubs built for huge long-term growth; and now the company's experimenting with rails), and the organic growth of regional carriers (such as OnTrac out west), UPS cannot continue to sustain such large price increases year after year. Demanding $2-$3 annual raises in addition to absorbing soaring health care costs is beyond realistic. If UPS keeps its current top pay (with raises equal to inflation) + continues to absorb all increased health care costs, it'd be more than generous. In order to secure its future -- which equates into our (young & future employees) -- UPS needs to remain competitive.

 

[cachsux]

cach do you really want Klien as an American ?? Think about that one will yah !!

Oh absolutely! It would be the worst torture for him to know he is now one of us.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I think you are way off on all of these. However if the company attempts to take away p/t benefits from current employees, I forsee a strike!!

That's why they are called rumors. BTW, if you had read more closely you would have seen that I said new PT employees.