Russia Claims Ukraine Standoff Is Over

Lineandinitial

Legio patria nostra
We supported their bid to join NATO back in 2009.

The U.S. and Ukraine are on the same side. We consistently have defended their sovereignty and have been arming them since Russia invaded them in 2014.

By all accounts the U.S. and Ukraine are allies. That does not mean Ukraine is some perfectly functioning democracy without any corruption at all. Putin would be happy people like you want to cut off Ukraine.
The US and Ukraine are not allies...Period.
 

Next Day Err

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The US and Ukraine are not allies...Period.
Great. So we should let Russia run over the country and set its sights on Moldova or Estonia next?

People forget that it took almost 4 years before the Soviet Union showed its true strength in the years after Hitler began his European conquest.

Letting Putin take Ukraine is playing with a firestorm in the making.
 

vantexan

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Show us the underlying bank records that the "committee" has promised totally exists.
Why "committee" in quotation marks? This isn't some appointed commission like J6. These are regular House committees who examine all kinds of things. And again in case you didn't understand the first time. ANYONE who deposits, receives, or wires $10,000 or more automatically has a Suspicious Activity Report generated that's sent to the government. That's a law passed to fight money laundering by drug dealers. The banks aren't in collusion with the Republicans to get Biden.
 

Next Day Err

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ANYONE who deposits, receives, or wires $10,000 or more automatically has a Suspicious Activity Report generated that's sent to the government. That's a law passed to fight money laundering by drug dealers. The banks aren't in collusion with the Republicans to get Biden.
SARs are commonplace and aren't necessarily indicative of any nefarious activity.
 

Next Day Err

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Bumbling Dementia Joe Biden and his handler Obama "meddle" in Ukraine and tell their pathetic followers what they want them to believe and they shout it from the highest towers.

The U.S. is trying to stop Russian aggression. We have a long history of eventually finding ourselves in a :censored2:storm when we appease totalitarian madmen. Stopping Russia is a priority, but it's apparently not for you unless Trump tells you otherwise (he won't, he's a puppet of the Kremlin).
 

Next Day Err

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You went to a Communist school? That explains things...S&P
Matt was a communist then and he is today. He has nothing bad to say about Vladimir Putin and doesn't think Ukraine is worth trying to save. Matt and I aren't even on speaking terms anymore because I don't really like maintaining relationships with abject morons.
 

Lineandinitial

Legio patria nostra
The U.S. is trying to stop Russian aggression. We have a long history of eventually finding ourselves in a :censored2:storm when we appease totalitarian madmen. Stopping Russia is a priority, but it's apparently not for you unless Trump tells you otherwise (he won't, he's a puppet of the Kremlin).
You liberals always resort to the Trump argument because that's your greatest and only argument.
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Next Day Err

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Why "committee" in quotation marks? This isn't some appointed commission like J6. These are regular House committees who examine all kinds of things. And again in case you didn't understand the first time. ANYONE who deposits, receives, or wires $10,000 or more automatically has a Suspicious Activity Report generated that's sent to the government. That's a law passed to fight money laundering by drug dealers. The banks aren't in collusion with the Republicans to get Biden.
Let's see the individual bank records that clearly denote nefarious activity. Payments "from" and "to." I'll wait.
 

vantexan

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Fixed it. Ukraine has a very dark history.

The Romanians and others also collaborated with the Nazis. Ukraine is being singled out and more or less all of them are being painted the same way. There were certainly Ukrainians who hated the Russians with a passion. Stalin caused a famine in Ukraine in the '30's that killed millions. But Ukraine wasn't a separate country that aligned with Germany like Romania did. Plenty of Ukrainians fought alongside Russians against the Nazis. Interesting fact I ran across a couple years ago. A luxury bunker as built for Hitler by 16,000 Ukrainians in forced labor so that he could visit near the front. After completion the 16,000 were all executed so that the bunker's location could be kept secret.
 
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